posted Wed, 10/12/2011 - 09:32
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Reducing PIP
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I decided to make the move to injectables so that I can safely stay on cycle for longer. I've got some Lixus Test C and I'm on week two at 600mg/week, which I've pinned in my quads. The problem is that the pip is so bad a couple of days after pinning that it's making it impossible to walk normally, which is creating a lot of questions, both at work and at home, which is going to create a lot of suspicions if it goes on for 10 weeks. I've tried massaging the area, hot baths and a range of pain killers, but none of these do the job of allowing me to walk normally.
If I carry on will the pip reduce significantly?
Has anyone got any tips that they use to reduce pip?
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I tried the ventrogluteal site on Sunday and despite the injection feeling less comfortable than the quads, I've had no pip and most importantly no problems walking.
Some people handle the quads better than others. Me personally they hurt glutes best for less pain. Your delt shouldn't be bad either for 1ml test c. I rotate sites especially when using prop. If you do quads like said below make sure you go in at the side. I made the mistake a couple years ago by going straight down in the center and damn.. Never again. Honestly no matter which you choose. The pain after a few pins starts slowing or you just get used to it.
dansta123had nice shower..used a scrubbing cloth and scrubbed the section while in shower dryed up warmed vial..punched rite through no problems..no pip..bit to easy for my first blast in a long time.
Again I had the same problem Switched to glutes. I now apply a heat pack pre and post injection. Now I get little or no PIP
AnonSimple things
-Warm up Vial, oil is less viscous when heated. Run it under hot water for a few minutes.
-If pinning quads you need to hit the outside as said before. you need to come in from the side, the needle should be sticking out of the side of your leg.
-Try not to move the needle around too much when pinning, I know that can be hard since its natural to have a bit of shaky hands. The less movement the smoother every thing goes.
-Inject SLOWLY.. I'm assuming you're injecting 1ml/300mg of Test Cyp each time. Injecting that 1ml should take you 30-45 seconds.
-When pulling the needle out make sure again not to move the needle too much.
-Massage the area, I use a can of air freshener and just roll it up and down my leg, also try to lightly work out the area in a few days (few light sets of leg extensions should help)
If people are getting suspicious tell them you've been working your legs out hard twice a week.
Thanks for the tips.
I think that I need to try some other locations, the quads just seemed by far the easiest place to reach.
AnonYou are hitting the wrong spot on your quad to begin with. If you go towards the middle even in the slightest your muscle wont tolerate the juice. Hit the right spot which is towards the outside of your quad and you can pin 3cc shots no problem. If in doubt go towards the outside and high. Flex your quad and were is the highest spot on the outside that is were you pin. You dont hit the shot vertically you need to pin from the side if that makes sense. Quads are much easier than people think i find them easier than the glutes even
Thanks for the input. I'm not quite sure how high you mean. I've been pinning on the outside, just above half way between my knee and hip, should I be going higher than this?
AnonIf you are between hip and knee you should be fine. It is supposed to have less nerves when you pin higher and less pip so dont go to close to your knee. Make sure you penetrate the muscle from the side btw not from top, it is kinda diagonal
I HAD THAT TOO ON MY FIRST PIN BUT PINNED EQ AND TEST E MIXED AT 2.5 AND PIN VERY SLOW AND HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING ANYTHING TO BAD ANYMORE.DONT KNOW IF I HAD TO GET USED TO IT OR WHAT.IM USING A 23 G 1 INCH NEEDLE.THE FIRST TIME I USED A 1.5 INCH NEEDLE AND THATS WHEN IT HURT BAD.U DIDNT POST WHAT SIZE UR USING BUT CHECK THAT AND MAYBEE PIN SLOWER.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been using 25G 1" needles to pin. It seems to take a long time to push the oil through this needle, but I'll make an effort to push even slower next time.
hey bro, try a ventrogleuteal injection. No pip there, also make sure you warm the juice up while its in the syring just by warming it up with your hands. I use 1 inch needle on the ventro it can take up to 3cc's. Or why not just try the glutes?
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Thanks for the suggestion - I had originally intended to rotate between glutes and quads, but I hadn't though about the ventrogleuteal site.