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Anyone warm/heat up their test before drawing it out bottle? Like with a small lighter or something? Did it for the first time and drawing with a 25g needle was nothing! Didn’t know if this will affect the liquid at all or not. Any insight or info if this is a no no please let me know, thanks

hogwild's picture

I sit my bottles on top of metal coffee can in front of space heater. Works great!

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DeeMan's picture

Just to be clear prolonged or excessive heat of any hormone in oil will cause oxidation of that oil and or hormone. That's known by most but some folks don't know I see.

Makwa's picture

yeah I warm it, but not with a lighter Lol

Steeltoad777's picture

Only when I run DHB. Can't tell the difference, honestly. That shit hurts like a MF either way.

DeeMan's picture

I agree. No way around that. And no difference at all.

pingree24's picture

Damn right it does lmao

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Pushing Iron 87's picture

One the wee hand warmer bean bags works a treat. Warm the bean bag in microwave then leave vial on it and give it mix about and your ready to go makes oil a lot thinner and easier to pin would use for all mine but especially important for high mg oils.

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Black90tsi's picture

Depending on if i'm using a slin pin or luer lock i'll place the filled pin or vial in a small heating blanket on low for 10 minutes so it goes in easier.

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press1's picture

I do like to warm everything up a little once its all in the barrel, definitely injects way easier. I don't like the thought of continually warming up the vial though a number of times, I can't see it being good for it Scratch one-s head

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Stokes500's picture

I hold mine above the steam from the kettle, if I hold it to near it will burn my fingers so I know I’m not over heating it. I only do this for high concentration gear though 350mg/ml and above

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Jockstrap's picture

Rice pack. Body temperature.

KonstantViktory's picture

Absolutely. Throw it in the crockpot and get my tren cooked up darker. My theory is the darker the better. I get better results too. I also throw some into a glass oil burner and smoke it sometimes as well. Brings me a good clean balanced energy similar to a low dose pin, but without using quite as much.

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Jockstrap's picture

Darker is destroying the hormone. Chemistry 101

DeeMan's picture

You know I tried telling a top src that same thing and he disagreed about excessive heat causing hormone oxidation. Like you said it's chem 101.

pingree24's picture

I remember reading that awhile back.. he was adamant you were wrong too

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DeeMan's picture

Yep he was adamant that I was wrong.
The dude had no idea I guess. But pretty much everyone else knew.

Jockstrap's picture

Thats when ya switch labels. Haha

DeeMan's picture

Ha

press1's picture

I've always felt terrible on dark tren, would run a mile from using it. Used some once that was dark brown/black and never again. I like the stuff thats yellow in colour rather than amber.

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JakeKO's picture

Dark Tren = All. Sides no gains

People think it’s better because of the excessive sides and brutal night sweats, when all those sides are just your body trying to burn off the poison running through you. SMH

press1's picture

I'm trying to get my Balls going again using some Major HCG shots - So far they ain't playin Ball!!! Lmfao Think they may have left the party some years ago now ROFL

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Ag4936cali's picture

Took me like 4-5 weeks to notice anything on hcg. Nut swelling.

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hogwild's picture

Yeah, nothing like achey nutz

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Ag4936cali's picture

I've been on test 6 years though

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press1's picture

Did it really mate?! What dose were you running?

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Ag4936cali's picture

500 x2 a week. Finished the 5000 bottle, it worked visualually

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press1's picture

As far as I can see, it ranges anything from 500iu to 3000iu's 3 times per week - I think maybe you were running it a little low there mate as you would have been better going for 1000iu's x 3/wk. Reassuring to see though that after 6 years on Test, that low HCG dose you regained function!! I am a little longer than you lol Did you full PCT or stay TRT?

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Ag4936cali's picture

Just hcg alone. Went off trt. Then back on.
I was scared of the estro with such a big dose of hcg,( might be on cycle thing). Ima try that on my next little break, bigger dose.
Thanks for the input, noted and appreciated

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JakeKO's picture

Try a different brand, Bro! If it’s good stuff, it should work pretty fast

press1's picture

It's the best one mate - the one that ryhmes with being pregnant Lmao

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JakeKO's picture

Proviron seems to bring my balls back to normal size pretty fast. I haven’t used HCG since discovering proviron. I hardly ever use any ED meds either when I’m on it, unless I’m expecting a multi session night

DeeMan's picture

Man for whatever reason I hardly get anything out of proviron.

Jockstrap's picture

Oligozoospermia and deficient Leydig-cell secretion may be the cause of infertility. With Proviron treatment, sperm count can be increased, the quality improved and, furthermore, a higher fructose concentration up to normal values can be achieved thus increasing the chances of procreation.

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DeeMan's picture

Never used Tren but damn if it's too dark it can't be too good for you. Not sure why they started brewing it dark anyways

Jockstrap's picture

Origional fina pellets were dark tinted. Hense dark color in oil. People assumed dark as good because og fina was good. Msds for tren powder is light. Two different sources. New fina pellets have estradiol added as is adds more mass and marbeling to beef.

DeeMan's picture

Yep you're right according to msds the powder is a lighter color. Those good ole pellet days I remember hearing about. Damn time goes by fast! And yea estradiol is added to those pellets as well as testosterone pellets. Unfortunately that didn't stop some knuckleheads from using them, but then they cry about having bitch tits..go figure.

JakeKO's picture

It’s rare that you’ll ever see a reputable source sell a dark bottle. Usually a smaller bathtub brewer selling that crap

DeeMan's picture

I always scratched my head wondering what the hell.

JakeKO's picture

I think it’s done by mistake and they sell it anyway to not suffer the loss

Ag4936cali's picture

Your screen name, is that a state issued number?

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Ah10386's picture

Not state issued? Is it a strange user name?

Ag4936cali's picture

Might put sut and get pipe wipe stuff all on the vial.
Few experts on here recommend always warming, coffee burner, electric stove top. Just to get it warm. You proably can't get it that hot with a lighter to degrade it.

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JakeKO's picture

I warm everything I inject besides HGH, and peptides that I keep in the fridge

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