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-1 Test E/Boldenone PCT for 1st cycle- advice needed please!

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Hello community! I would like to preface this by saying that this is the first day I have had my account and look forward to interacting with you all and that today also marks the beginning of my first ever cycle. It's safe to say that I am completely stoked and am really looking forward to hearing all of you all's opinions on the subject matter at hand. I'm here to learn and hope you all can assist in teaching me!

I am a 27 year old male whose 5'10 190 lbs and I began my first ever cycle today. Now, I know a lot of people recommend using only Test for their first cycle but I decided to add boldenone as well as I ran track and played a basketball my entire life and have really bad joints, especially considering my age. I have heard from multiple sources that boldenone was really good at lubricating ones joints due to the huge increase in collagen production.

I am planning on running my cycle for 16 weeks with 500 mg Test E and 600 mg Boldenone. I also have HCG in hand and was going to begin using 250 iu of it twice a week during week 4 and onward.

I was planning on starting my PCT 4 weeks after the completion of my cycle as I know Boldenone has a really long half life. I was going to PCT with 100 MG of Clomid for the first two weeks and 50 MG for the subsequent two weeks.

The thing is, I am having a really tough time finding the information online about what else I should use for my PCT. Will the clomid be enough? I have Aromasin on hand but keep hearing conflicting information over whether I should keep it as a back up in case I feel the onset of gyno or if I should use it for my PCT.

Any advice? I also am wondering if the Clomid will be enough or if I should order some Nolva. Also, if I do feel the onset of Gyno how much aromasin should i even take and for how long in order to counteract these effects?

Any input or advice would adamantly be appreciated. Really look forward to some guidance. Until then rock on my bros!

coolbogey's picture

Boldenone will take longer than 4 weeks to clear so you'll want to drop that first, continue test for 4 weeks after that and then PCT 4 weeks after dropping the test (8 weeks from bold).

Also, boldenone tends to act as an AI in most people. I'd recommend upping the test to 600 or dropping the eq to 500 as well or you may crash your E2.

Aromasin is NOT for PCT it's to control your estrogen. You've got a lot more reading to do.

I'd say drop the bold, go with just test and things will be a lot easier to manage.

Jummpee's picture

Thanks for your advice- I stashed the bold for another cycle- going to run test e for 16 weeks at 500 mg and then clomid 100mg/100mg/50mg/50mg. Still doing research regarding best pct but that’s what I’m sticking with until I learn more

coolbogey's picture

Just do nolva at 20 mg for 6 weeks and you'll be fine.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Can you give us a quick insight into your proposed daily eating plan please.

I'm not that bothered about what gear you decide to run but ultimately the diet and training will determine results period.

Jummpee's picture

Well it’s mostly really bland food @ 3,500 calories a day- brown rice- sweet potatoes- lots of chicken- some steak tips- salmon- egg whites. Shooting for about 70 grams of carbs and 70 grams of protein for 6 meals. I’m trying to gain bulk a bit while also cutting fat

Shred777's picture

A first cycle should only be Test C or Test E. Because you gotta find out how your body handles just Test. Keep notes, I keep daily on cycle notes, it helps trust me. Test, AI, Nolva, Clomid is all you really need for a 12 week run of Test. You want the Nolva for PCT and just incase some gyno flare up happens so you can put the nipple fire out by blocking the estro receptors. I didn't have any HCG my first few cycles and my nuts were fine. Don't take that Bold, just store it in a clean place in the dark at room temp for another time.

Jummpee's picture

I appreciate the insight my man- advice heeded. I’ll save the bold for another time.

Tricepatops's picture

Wasting money on it. You make great gains on first cycle with just test and adding bold is a waste. This cycle is going to cost you more in the long run. Run just test and at 27 if your joints are this bad masking with an AAS can lead to injury.

Jummpee's picture

I appreciate your insight- I’ll stick to the test only cycle this go around. I definitely don’t have the greatest knees but I was planning on never going to heavy with my lifts to not further any damage to them. All of the responses on this thread have definitely been helpful and I recognize I was probably being a little impatient by adding the bold for a first cycle.

Do you think the clomid will be enough for a pct or should I also add something like nolva ?

Tricepatops's picture

You should look up proper pct after first cycle and get bloods during and after. I never did any AAS until I was put on TRT so I have never had to do a pct so I am not the one to ask. But seems most pcts include clomid nolva and HCG.

steroidmen's picture

First cycle with 500 test and bold 600 . You don't want to try from 250test and 250 bold ?

Rustyhooker's picture

So cosign dumb things? Which one is causing the problem when shit hits the fan? Fiij rst timer trying 2 approaches is redunk

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Jummpee's picture

Well based on multiple sources I’ve heard that anything anything less than 600 Bold per week would be a waste because it is usually ran at higher dosages. I will humble myself however and take heed of everyone’s advice and just stick to the test for this cycle. I need to exercise some patience and think more long run

press1's picture

Not that you should be using either on your first cycle - but I am surprised your advisors recommended EQ and not NPP/Deca for joints. Plus all the sides that come with it. You realise you are supposed to donate blood whilst running EQ too right?

Jummpee's picture

I did know that about EQ- but I will take heed of your advice and stop using EQ (I only injected it once which was yesterday 1st day of cycle) and stick to the test. I appreciate your advice and will look into other alternatives for my joints down the line!

press1's picture

It comes with a range of bad side effects including bad anxiety as time goes on as it builds in your system. It just isn't worth it for the few benefits it brings. I've only ran it properly once in 7 years of using gear - all the other times I have used NPP Smile

Rustyhooker's picture

First cycle....

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press1's picture

First cycle what?

'Not that you should be using either on your first cycle'

Olofmeister's picture

Hcg 250iu EOD
Only testo for first cycle an stay to 10-12 weeks
You don’t know how you gonna react (rise of E2 , hématocrit..)

And it’s more nandrolone for joints and collagene

Jummpee's picture

Advice accepted good sir- after reading everyone’s replies I’ve realized I need to slow it the F down lol and just be patient- do you think my PCT with clomid should be enough or should I also add nolva to the equation?

Olofmeister's picture

If you stick to testosterone only and hcg 250iu EOD I know some people will not agree but for a first cycle I will not do a pct. But keep on hand clomid and Nolva
Just check LH/FSH 4 weeks after the last injection and you will see if you need pct or not.
100mg of clomid for 2 weeks is pretty high for this cycle
Juste 100mg first day and 50mg after

Jummpee's picture

Hey thanks for the advice my man- I appreciate it and will consider what you have told me. I’m definitely going to stick to test E only and will continue doing more research on the most effective way to PCT for it

Rustyhooker's picture

Dumbass cycle.

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Jummpee's picture

Care to tell me why?

Rustyhooker's picture

You will have problems. Which one is the issue? No skill to determine or counter anything. Piss poor pct. Yolo style which is expected with todays trophys for all kids

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Jummpee's picture

Honesty you make a good point. I’m definitely being a dumbass lol- I’ve decided to stick to the test only cycle for this go around. I know the PCT isn’t all the way figured out just yet but my guy is local and I can get whatever I want from him to address my PCT needs so I figured starting the cycle and figuring out my PCT before it ends would be fine. Do you think I should also run nolva with the clomid as a post cycle?

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Jummpee's picture

What’s up with your condescending undertone? That’s three comments in a row now that you’ve been projecting negativity onto me. Honestly forget I even asked you. There is a stigma of grown ass men acting like edgy 13 year olds on sites like these that I hoped wasn’t true but am now wondering if it is.

And I can’t read that thread because i tried to join it last night after creating this account and it’s still pending. I’ll find the info elsewhere or from someone else.

Rustyhooker's picture

I was driving.....not smug

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Jummpee's picture

Fair enough

Rustyhooker's picture

Welcome to eroids. After you been here a while, youll see how many newbs jump in with only what a utube said to run. It will make more sense at that time.

My first cycle was 300mg a week and kept 15 solid. I was also fully sponsored in bodybuilding AND pkayed semi and pro sports. So dont assume youre golden. Have a great day

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Jummpee's picture

Hey man I’m not here to get into a dicking contest- I deleted my last comment to you because it was a little uncalled for. Im just trying to spread good vibes and interact with a like minded community. I understand the newbs might get annoying but everyone’s got to start somewhere right?

Rustyhooker's picture

Truth!

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Makwa's picture

I just added you to the group so you can look through it now.

Jummpee's picture

Thank you man