posted Tue, 04/12/2022 - 09:18
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Planning my first cycle for the summer. I'm wondering if I'd be able to just go to my doctor for a pharma grade PCT when it's time to come off cycle? Or would I be better off ordering my PCT with my ⚙️? Anybody have experience with this?
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Ordering domestic would be easier, cheaper, and potentially faster.
All of the sources I've tried here are fast as f*ck.
You can get pharma grade PCT online, it's not expensive, and has no risk for you where insurance is concerned.
Why do you want to announce to your insurance company that you ABUSE a drug that can cause heart problems and a host of other issues? To save what? Thirty bucks? They can deny future coverage if you end up with a health issue that is known to be linked to your steroid ABUSE whether it was or not. When you're 60 and have age related heart issues, they'll point to this.
AAS is a schedule III-controlled substance. Why not approach them and tell them that you recreationally use Codeine? From where they sit it's ABUSE; not use.
Oh fuck it... Go for it, save your $30 bucks. I'm not your mom.
Thank you mama Greg
I genuinely hadn't considered some of these angles.
So, it would also be I'll advised to get blood work on cycle? Or just don't go through insurance?
Private blood work is cheap. To keep things in perspective, food is the most expensive part of the cycle.
RustyhookerClick my avatar...read forums on bloods AND pct
When you finish your cycle and go to your doctor, they will likely prescribe the typical low-test protocol but not a PCT as you see on here. Some doctors may just try to put you on TRT.
Easiest way is just to order your PCT from your source of gear. It is not super expensive and you do not have to worry about being prescribed something you don't want.
RustyhookerPlanning my first cycle
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Order your PCT with your gear. Even if a doctor would prescribe you I doubt any reputable doctor will promise to prescribe you in advance and therefore encourage your use of anabolics.
Oh I didn't think I could do it like that. But I figured if I showed up and got blood work the last week or 2 of my cycle and told them I was on a cycle and needed a PCT, they might be willing to write the script. I'll probably just order the PCT and go to the doctor anyway to see what they say.
Should've clarified, by all means go to a doctor if That's a possibility. Just meant that it doesn't hurt to PCT products as a back up in case you can't get pharma.
RustyhookerITS HIS VERY FIRST CYCLE!!!! WTF DO YA MEAN IT DOESNT HURT TO PCT AS BACKUP?
Like I said, doesn't hurt to order PCT products as a backup in case he can't get it through his doctor from a pharmacy like he initially planned.
Rustyhookerwhat medical professional gives out trt? And risking permanent loss of health insurance? Seriously? Wheres FIRST CYCLE get overlooked?
100% correct. Order pct online
Rustyhookertell your dr you use steroids and lose your insurance permanently.
Can you explain a little more in depth?
RustyhookerIf your dr puts any notes or blood tests tgat obviously go thru medical system....the folks filing all papers and documents can catch those issues. You can lose your insurance. Research it...im old retarded but med trained
I posted a forum on blood testing
Rusty is playing it safe by giving the best advice ; however it’s not always the case; doctor may condone tuning back usage and prescribed trt TO COME OFF SAFELY
RustyhookerA dr will never prescribe trt to come off safely. Ever. Trt is permanent. Scroll the trt section where guys in their 30s cant even get trt
Again you can’t say that for every case when I’m living proof ; unless my endo is 100% crooked .. she took her time to hear me out, not like I was even pulling the “A” card to get what I wanted being on androgel since 2019.. as a matter of fact gotta check when my next appointment is.. I don’t wanna argue back and forth necessarily; lucky? I have no clue but I’ll pm you for any actual proof if you are curious
So two different scenarios here...trt after years of cycles or pct after first cycle. I know you weren't put on trt after first cycle and if so that Docs license needs to be pulled lol
RustyhookerHe was on trt before he even cycled.
This is true and what made the difference for me and soley me; I should’ve kept my mouth shut because it doesn’t have anything to do with an actual pct so yes getting negged perfectly viable (:
All good. Live and learn
Why is there a neg for stating your truth? Just curious
Rustyhookerits his FIRST CYCLE bruh.....whats to consider here?
@BFG tge op is on first cycle. Wheres trt come in ?
Meant below it should of stayed at pct. Think I put trt. Anyways edited. We gotta be careful with advice especially to first timers
RustyhookerAgree bro....this is why im all hyphie here. Lol! If folks cant read...first cycle....and no skill on giving advice then kick rocks. Just like telling dr youre using steroids. Ya because insurance company will be cool with hotplate cooked illicit drugs. Lol
You say hyphie but I say your hooks are justified in this case lol. I feel ya
RustyhookerHigh five big bro.....
High five..now keep your hooks out of my damn back!! Lmfao
RustyhookerShhhh...secrets.....
Ok I see this convo went from pct to trt. So it should of stayed at pct. Yea if it's his first cycle then trt is out of the question...nooo wayyy. So I see
I see. I'm a humble student here. This is all relatively new to me. I know a fair bit about the compounds themselves. But the logistics around running a successful cycle is what I'm trying to wrap my head around at this point.
Likewise Gooch ; welcome you’ll figure it out (:
Maybe, but if they don't you're screwed. Always have a PCT and an AI on hand before you start your cycle.
I have pay for insurance through my employer. You're saying admitting use to them could cause my insurance provider to drop my coverage?
Yes. You are now admitting to being a drug user which is high risk for them.
Bruh, been here I did a stupid cycle at 25 and decided I should just quit cold turkey. I ended up going to a doc and they basically offered trt. I don’t think any doc is going to give you Nova, Clomid or HCG. If it was me, I’d have all my PCT gear lined up before I even start my cycle. The way you end a cycle is everything. If you fuck it up all your hard work goes down the drain trust me.
This is my concern. I've had a urologist offer HCG before for low t from sarms. But I wasn't sure if I went in and just told them that I was coming off cycle if they'd prescribe hcg and a serm.
There are plenty of good sources you can find through Eroids. Your already trusting whatever source you pick to supply you with gear. Might as well make it a one stop shop. Buy the whole cycle PCT and all so you don’t have to sweat sourcing it later. Honestly during your first cycle your going to spend more on PCT then the actual AAS, that was my experience.
The hcg is my main concern. I've heard a lot of stories about people receiving bunk HCG and serms, with real AAS. Natural production isn't the greatest, so I really want to nail the PCT so that I can retain as much as possible. If that makes sense
100 percent, if you can get it prescribed then great, I just know it wasn’t even an option when I went to the doc. I’m sure most guys would agree on here that your nova/Clomid are going to be your key players PCT wise. I have read a lot saying you can get away with just those two. Although I did use all 3.
Appreciate your input man. This is exactly why I made this post --
Good luck bro!!