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First run of Tren

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Hey guys, looking at including Tren for the first time and was making sure I had all my ancillaries lined up.

I am planning on running the following:
600mg TestE / week
400mg TrenE /week
50mg dbol / day for 1 month (weeks 4-7)
Aromasin EoD (1/2 of 12.5mg tab)

How much caber should I run? Are there any alternatives to Caber? And why is Caber so fucking expensive?

MurderHornet2020's picture

I would advise against using trenbolone unless you have a specific need, like preparing for a stage competition, and even then, it should be approached with caution. Starting with basic testosterone cycles is usually sufficient when re-entering bodybuilding.

Before that, focusing on a well-balanced diet and consistent training can yield significant results for a year or two.

Not judging personally. Got back into the gym just for three months after 6 months of fucking off. Then blasted test and drol so… but I know I will be really grinding in 4 weeks when I’m all natural again.

Muscle.Mindset's picture

I get it, and appreciate the feedback. However, still going to push forward. Definitely not a beginner and have been back at it for close to 2 years.

I’m seeing other forums recommending anywhere between 0.25mg to 0.5mg E3D.

Just trying to do some research and get enough Caber to last in case I have to take it the entire cycle.

Jockstrap's picture

Then might lower test to 300 as excess simply converts to estrogen. Tren will bind tighter and cause tge test to be unused thus more conversion.

On tren a at 100mg ed pins i ran caber at 0.25e3d. On tren e i run test lower and vitamin b6 at 300mg every day plus blood testing.

SimonM84's picture

Gauge it based on 200 mgs. Also, I only did .25 every 5 days when I was running Tren at higher levels. Deca is a whole other animal for me.

SimonM84's picture

Like jock mentions, I wouldn’t bother running anything
until you've been lifting consistent or run a simple cycle like he’s mentioning. I will also tell you despite not being in the condition (stage ready/comp ready) I ran Tren at 400 mgs with low test and didn’t experience any prolactin issues but had Caber on hand in case low libido or prolactin flare. I started having severe insomnia/mental side effects later on but adjusted dose to 200 mgs to alleviate sides. Side effects really depend on the individual but eventually, they creep up on everyone and which sides also depends on individual. If you do run it, start with 200 mgs and gauge from there especially with Tren e.

Jockstrap's picture

Your profile shows youre just starting to lift again. I would not run tren like that nor would I run a huge stack when getting back into lifting. Its winter and good time for simple cycle and good gains. Test and dbol is plenty.

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