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my question is about not being able to eat as much and when i need to on a bulking cycle. My job don't allow me the time or place to have the food i need to keep up with calorie intake i need so my question is can i supplement with a meal replacement/protein shake? My cycle is first one. With that said if i don't eat enough food will i just be miserable the whole time and or will my gains be little to nothing?

spencer399's picture

Of course you can use protein powder as a meal replacement I drink a double shake for breakfast nearly every day; however, I would not substitute multiple meals with just protein shakes. To ensure that you are getting all the proper nutrients, our overall diet should be dialed in before.

GrowMore's picture

A ton of Beef/Turkey mince (ground for you Americans), tomato purée, tin tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms, herbs, spices and a dash of Lea and Perrins aka the big daddy Worcestershire sauce (do you have that in America?) throw some brown rice or potato in there.. blend that up till it’s warm liquid gold, add it to 3/4 thermos’ and drink that every 2 hours while at work.

I’ve never tried it but let me know how it goes, you can come up with the name.

vhman's picture

I never knew the depths of your depravity until now! Lol.

GrowMore's picture

Skip to 6:30 and prepare yourself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qjlpBiQjzPg

vhman's picture

Chicken soup gone wrong.

wanted's picture

Wow. Thats all i can say. It definitely works for her

GrowMore's picture

She definitely has managed to build a huge amount of muscle.

Bill1976's picture

We will call that meat cream for the mouth lol. No homo

GrowMore's picture

Definitely requires a no homo

Bill1976's picture

I wasted my first whole year working out not eating right. Didn’t gain anything. When I started eating I gained.

Flexxx's picture

Was talking to a buddy that competes. He said diet/eating healthy is 80% of your results. Like you I had the same issues with my former job. I used to always have beef jerky, dried fruits, nuts, etc with me. Also, since we always had ice water available, that was when I started learning to tolerate a protein drink with ice water. I actually tolerated it well very quickly. It was hard to have a decent lunch, but with these quick and easy snacks I was able to maintain throughout the day. Of course after I got off work, I would have to make of for lost time devouring everything I could.

Elon323's picture

I think that we have to eat healthy meals instead of taking supplements because eating healthy gives more benefits than supplements.

JFit253's picture

So youre asking, if you dont eat enough food will you be able to bulk on cycle?

Get your nutrition right before turning to drugs or relying only on supplements. Meal prep food and pack it. I recommend finding meals you can eat cold as it is easier if you do not have a microwave. If you must include a shake then turn to whole food shakes in a blender (banana, pb, oats, milk, etc)

Harley1969's picture

I remember when I started a new job as a delivery driver, I lost 12lbs my 1st month and half. My wife started packing me deviled eggs, tuna sandwich, oatmeal pies and muscle milk. You need to get those calories in with quick easy to eat foods. A big breakfast certainly helps as well. My go to breakfast was boiled eggs, big bowl of grits and a glass of whole milk.

HeyYoeIte's picture

70 pounds? is that American pounds or Kilos for overseas? If you are 70 pounds i do not think that is normal or maybe you are a girl? The Muscle Milk cookies and cream or strawberry is really good, i put a little hot chocolate in it 2 packs of oatmeal, pour a yogurt in my cup also and take a handful of mixed fruits and throw them in the cup. Not a blender just a big old cup. Mix it and drink. It taste good at least so you can down it even if you do not have much time or you are not that hungry. that is my breakfast suggestion that you can get creative with. the only thing with muscle milk is you have to mix it extra good. I do not use a blender but i do not mind the small chunks of powder protein, it reminds me of cookie doe. Yummz

BigNuts's picture

Blend it (eggs, fruit, veg, protein, supps) and take it with you. Drink it throughout the day when you don't have time for a real meal.

UncleSams's picture

Agree. Shakes are lifesaving.
I can get 1-1.5 k calories per day additionally just by sipping a homemade slow carb gainer with 4 scoops of protein

JBsuperman's picture

A slow carb gainer works well. Gainers aren't what they used to be. Back in the day, they were just sugar with a little protein. Now, you can get designer carbs that are low glycemic yet absorb quickly. As long as it doesn't go insane with carb grams per serving, meaning a good balance of carbs to protein, it's a good option.

JBsuperman's picture

I remember doing that all the time. I ran a small retail store and worked alone until 4-5 pm most days. Had a fridge in the back. Just toss it in there and drink it when you can. If I wasn't doing that, I'd have to make up a quick shake and gulp it down.

BigLuke's picture

I've been there, bro. A lot of the suggestions here look good. If you can take quick, easy to eat protein foods, great. Maybe you'll need a cooler. Sometimes you gotta just scarf something down quick. You can do the shakes and bars thing, but really, there's nothing like a real meal. I think the key is small, easy to eat mini-meals. If you have to eat 3-4 of these, then so be it.

JohnConner1776's picture

Prep meals for several days and use zip lock bags ad carry them with you. That’s what I did. I see people getting smoke breaks do you have every right to take a snack break. Meal replacement is good for weight loss not do much weight gain from my experience.

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Christophany's picture

I wonder what type of advice he gives his clientele.

Client: "What types of food and how many calories do I need to eat?"

Xerox0907: "Air, man. It contains all your macros and is great for bulking. You will see 'gainz' for days!"

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Thomahawk's picture

Me too plus that MM just taste 90% better then anything we can mix up are selfs

Janus's picture

Food prep is the answer. Take an hour or 2 out on your day off and prep food for the next few days. Order groceries and have it delivered, or curb side pick up. Saves you time from not having to go to store. Get a a good size cooler to keep meals and snacks in it. When ever you get a minute or two, stuff your mouth. Rinse and repeat.

wanted's picture

4oz chicken breast slice thin on daves bread
Whey shake to wash it down
Tuna out of the can or on daves bread
I can eat chicken and rice cold so can most when the goal is to be bigger and better
Its really the difference between wanting it or being lazy. Goodluck To be 100% honest if you cant eat no juice is gona help unfortunately. You have to find away. My cousin works in an office in the city he would sit in a bathroom stall to get food in. Do what you have to do

fwaller354's picture

Yea you gotta get them calories in bro. Wake up super early start eating big breakfast, eat more simpler carbs, if your going to do a shake have really high calorie shakes, do less cardio maybe. Gotta figure a way to force yourself to eat.

JBsuperman's picture

I have always been in the same boat. My job prevented me from sitting down to a meal when I should. I always depended on protein shakes and bars. If I couldn't find a good, clean, high-protein bar, I'd come up with a quick and easy snack. My main thing was I had to be able to put it down and come back to it 10-15 minutes later. The reason was, I was a retail manager that always worked alone until 4 or 5 pm, most days. That meant if I wanted to eat, I had to stand in the backroom doorway, gulp my shake and wolf down my bar or snack. Hopefully, I could get that done before the next customer came in. And, I believe in customer service, so someone walks into my store, I will greet them within 10 seconds. That experience convinced me about the importance of protein powder and clean protein bars. So, yes, take full advantage of shakes and other supplements. You have no other choice.

IrishMack's picture

I cant sit on my job either, so I prep packages and carry a little fanny pack. I have dehydrated chicken jerky, ham, steak, and sometimes i switch it up with smoked salmon, herring, sardines. Just because you are on the go all day does not mean you cant improvise.

JBsuperman's picture

All that sounds good. Unfortunately, I never had time to eat stuff like that. It was all I could do to gulp a protein shake, but I worked in a busy retail environment. Also, as I mentioned, I would never ignore a customer just so I could drink/eat. That was good customer service, but I paid for it.

Makwa's picture

no food, no gains. Can't build something from nothing.

Christophany's picture

I hear Dorian Yates was a breatharian.

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Saint gannett's picture

Rice, chicken, broccoli and scrambled egg.... egg whites if you worry about yolksl This is staple bulking food, lots of good carbs, plenty of protein an minerals. Eggs have all the aminos already, but you can supplement with a quick BCAA drink. You can eat it hot, cold, plain, douse in low fat hot sauce (be careful many use butter as a main ingredient), but it is cheap, healthy, and can store a full day in tupper ware. Tired of chicken... take a can of mackerel and open it when ready to eat.. no refrigeration needed. Bonus.... very easy to hit target calories on this plan, cook up a measured amount in the evening or morning and portion out. Make yourself eat on a schedule and you will bulk!

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JBsuperman's picture

It's difficult to find food to eat on the run. I always planned my quality meals before/after I worked. If you are able to take a lunch break, you can bring whatever you want. I couldn't do that because I worked alone, and I couldn't leave the store front. I experimented with shakes, I would blend up fruits with my protein, maybe use milk, and add ice. I often had a fridge in the back. That was even easier than making up a shake with water. Just shake it and drink it. If you can eat, you can try a PB&J using sugar-free jelly, natural PB, and protein bread. It tastes better than it might sound, lol.

wanted's picture

Isnt the wise tale that jay cutler ate 5 pbj’s aday

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