Testosterone Enanthate first cycle 27yr old maxed out natural
Hey everyone,
I’m 6’5” 202 lbs and 27 years old. I have been working out off and on for the last 8 years. The last 3 years I’ve been going really hard. I have tapped out my natural potential and hit a plateau in the gym lately. I have been doing a load of research for about a month now and watching all of Derek’s (moreplatesmoresates) videos trying to get as educated as I can. From my research I’ve concluded I want to try a 10-12 week cycle of testosterone Enanthate starting off slow and working up to 500mg. My diet is solid and training is on point. Bench is currently 225 x6 squat 315x8 and deadlift 365x8. Looking to get the bench into the 315 range and other lifts up as well. I was hoping to get some insight from you fellas on the next steps in my lifting career (it’s a hobby 6 days a week not trying to go pro but want to be bigger). What is recommend for pct and any recommendations on reputable sources for some gear that isn’t “c
Dangerous Chinese crap” is greatly appreciated! Looking forward to joining the community fellas------
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What kind of lifting regimen do you use. I’m similar size to you but 260lbs. I had a rough patch when I was 22 and went full blow into the gym for a year (played football in highschool and college). I had plateaued and started 5/3/1 training. I went from a 270 or so bench press to 315x10, squat 425x10, and deadlift 495x10. That was at 230lbs after dropping down from 290 in a years time. I think people underestimate their potential. Granted diet was on point also.
Since you're probably going to do whatever you want anyway at least use HCG during your cycle to keep your nuts alive
You're a bean pole brother, you're not maxed out on potential, just low on diet.
You're tall, which is tough, you gotta eat twice what the smaller guys do, you have more to move, it's a harder road but once you get there, you become a an impressive figure at 6'5 and 240lbs. If you're an ecto build, 240 will be pretty big, if you're more meso, it'll be lean but strong looking if your BF is lower enough.
Will AAS help you, yes, could you get there naturally? Also yes.
The choice is yours, you're an adult but diet.
I'd recommend that before you begin AAS, work on the diet. Maybe try some MK677 to get your engines going. Read up on it first, as with anything else. Also don't neglect creatine, it's an amazing supplement that is often forgotten about once people cross in to the AAS game
Have you tried the mk-677? Is it the best supplement out there for appetite? I can grow like a mofo if I just eat enough but it’s hard for me to eat enough if it’s not McDonald’s or Taco Bell lol. I’ve always been intrigued by the mk but just never pulled the trigger
I'm still on fence with mk677.
Of course I have, MK is amazing for all around health. It makes for crazy appetites too in the beginning.
Here's my growth secret. Before bed, i'd down half a tub of PB, washed down with water, hard gainer or not, that shit would blow you up. Dirty gains are gains, I don't try to bulk overly clean, no point.
I match that with a pint of ben & jerrys ice cream
I may be dirty but I'm not a whore
Ya I have a 700-1000 calorie shake before bed every night and it keeps me growing a little or at least keeps me where I’m at around 195 but I’m missing out on calories from when I wake up till about 3pm I’m eating very little so I just know I’m missing out on a lot of gains during the first half of the day. I know I’m gunna have to crank up my eating if I wanna get over 200 pounds.
I have appetite issues myself so I can definitely relate. Hey that natural peanut butter works but I put it in my protein shake. Yea you gotta get those calories. Man some days I only eat twice a day, but I've never done that on cycle, just off cycle. Absolutely no appetite. I've gotten better though.
And absolutely if you're not eating half the day then you won't grow and I know that for a fact because I've done that. It sucks.
Ya when I get in the zone and plan out my cycle and have a set goal, I can do it but it’s work, and I can only do it for like 2 months and I grow real good but then I stop and lose like a third of it. But I know I could grow more from food then I could from drugs. I don’t know if I’m just a good responder or what but if I just focused on the food I could be an animal I just lose my focus after a little while. If I do orals for like three weeks they kill my stomach too.
Alot of those mass gainers you speak of use maltodextrin as the carb source. I remember back in the day it was regular sugar or high fructose corn syrup. I have some shakes myself. Makes things somewhat easier. Now I wouldn't suggest downing a 2000 calorie shake at one time. Way too much sugar....diabetes
I definitely prefer injects over orals. I take B- vitamins and they help a little bit. But yea food is the best anabolic for sure. Gotta eat. Like you I could probably be a little bigger eating more but I'm not trying to be Mr. Olympia. No disrespect to anyone who is though.
My Brother from another Mother!! LMFAO
you gotta tough time eating too?!
My appetite has always been horrific compared to others. Had GF's who can eat more than me Lol Protein shakes and glucose drinks make things up for me.
I found a mass gainer that I love the taste of and it’s 1,000 cals. Obviously it’s probably garbage calories but I drink it during and after my workouts and I think it keeps me at atleast maintenance and maybe a little over so at least get my bare minimum in.
Every Pharmaceutical compound is from China bud........ Even the compounds that go into your generic O.T.C. drugs, all of them. That doesn't mean they are crap. China make and produces tons of quality goods. That being said they're are lots of reputable src's on here just browse around, read the comments, read the reviews and then go with who you feel "right" with.
I'm not sure your ready for the juice yet, you are still very young and haven't even reached you prime age, I think you can still make gains upping the food and try using supplements. Once you go down this road you can end up like me forever going to need to rely on taking testosterone for the rest of my life. PCT is definitely wise if you do and there's src's that have Pharmaceutical grade products id personally use.
You need to eat more buddy. Taking steroids isn't gonna get you big if you stay eating the same you are.now. I'm not saying your diet is bad, it probably is a.nice high protein good carbs kind of diet without a lot of junk food but people fail to realize if you want to get your weight up you gotta force feed yourself till you feel sick at every meal. It sucks but that's what it takes. I'm sure makwa will come in here and tell you that that most gains are made in the kitchen. If you don't want to take any of our advise, take it from him, he's a pro.
I'm not actually sure what weight you should be really as 6'5 is so damn tall!! lol
I'm sure you could still get another 20 to 30lb's on you though. Nice to see you aiming for good target numbers in the big 3 lifts, I've seen plenty that can't get 225 for a single on bench yet still jump on 3 compounds.
You aren't near maxed out with those stats... Come on bro. Push yourself harder. Eat on a schedule..get big and push heavy weight. Your not serious enough about it to do that and think test is just gonna make these numbers jump. EVERYBODY WANTS IT. work harder than everyone else bro
202 BW and a 225 bench press with your height is far from maxed out. Don't kid yourself.
Your stats are also off, in your profile you say you're 6'4 with the following stats: bench 225x6 Squat: 315x10 Deadlift: 355x 8
In your post you say 6'5 with the following stats:
Bench is currently 225 x6 squat 315x8 and deadlift 365x8.
Lots of inconsistenties here. Seems like you aint ready kid, don't ask us to co-sign your cycle. Do your research and come back with a decent cycle plan.
Nobody cares if you're not maxed out on natty gains (most people don't even know what maxed out is), but don't bullshit us.
Appreciate the honest feedback. You are correct about a few inconsistencies I miss typed. Like I mentioned I am in my research phase right now and looking to do my first cycle probably within the next 6 months. Really just looking for opinions on recommended cycles and trying to absorb as much info from fellow gym brothers that have done it. I of course will keep pushing in the gym until I feel confident enough to embark on this journey. But I’m sure you are aware of how frustrating it gets when the gains come to a crawling pace when I know I am capable of much more.
DCPharma.co
Tried to send you a message but we aren’t “friends” yet. Go read the reviews for this source & you’ll see mine, which is similar to the others.
*IF you’re going to do something, I figure it’s better to point you in the right direction.
Still not being honest. You did not "mistype" or "language barriers", what you put is what you meant to put. Be honest with yourself is huge. These guys have the pro advice and good luck on your journey. 6'5" is a good height to build a big frame. Im jealous with my 5'8" height. Would live to be taller. Keep working buddy, you are heading in the right direction.
Ofcourse, but just be honest here. No need to pad any stats or even post stats. Like I said brother do your research and then come back with a cycle suggestion.
Also you saying 'dangerous chinese crap' doesnt make sense since most raw materials that steroids are made of come from china.
Not so sure on that last statement, they started shutting a lot of raw steroids production down in china it was a government crack down following on from operation raw deal and it continued for years to show a crack down on steroids leading up to the Beijing Olympics. India are a massive producer of raws now and there a few European countries getting big these days too
That's true but China still has some legit licensed raw powder manufacturers around. May not be many. You just don't hear about them. Not speaking on China's underground.
My mans lol
Lol I can spot bullshit from a mile away.
Without binoculars!