Maintaining Muscle/strength during cut, Var + Clen
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Been lifting for 15+ years but this will be my first time dabbling in thee dark arts. Currently on a diet, no prob weight is heading down but I want to avoid the usual drop off in strength/muscle that normally comes with my cuts.
I love lifting and can gain strength/muscle but it requires me to gain bodyweight, and getting stronger is the fun part, I don't go to a gym, just have a pretty good home setup of random old, yet good, equipment I managed to buy from gyms over the years, so the getting stronger is always a good motivation.
Cutting sucks balls, the dieting is easy I have no issue reducing calories or eating a 'blandish' diet but it takes so fucking long and the enjoyment goes when you can't shift the weights you used to.
So my plan is to use the magical powers of Var and Clen in order to maintain as much of the muscle mass and strength I currently have.
My current stash is
Anavar 50mg tabs
Clen 50mg
Clomid for pct
Stats
Age 36
5'10
100kg morning weight pre dump
Gonna guess 18% bodyfat
I am on my way down from 108kg but that was a deliberately disgusting bulk just to see how high I could go for the LOLz
I am going away to Thailand in 9 weeks time so using that as an initial target/goal, I am not aiming for crazy shredded just more an experiment to see how my body reacts.
Ideally this will be the new normal, where I can use var/Clen to do harder/shorter cuts enabling me to spend more time in a bulk phase, clean bulking from now on I swear.....
Any suggestions on doses? General info I have got from initial search is 40mg Clen broken up into 20mg + 20mg, with Var I have seen suggestions from 50mg -100mg.
Training will always be heavy, I have a very active job so I burn a shit load of calories through low intensity cardio
Anyhow thanks for reading my essay
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Ok so have my stuff now, my normal routine at the moment is
10am omelette ham/cheese, coffee
1pm protein yogurts, Lidl ones are great
7pm main meal
8.30/9 gym
Eat after then Zzzzz,
I am extremely active with work during the day, it's all low intensity type shit but serious amount of calories are being burnt.
Gonna divide 50mg Anavar, taking half under tongue on waking and other half just before gyming.
Since I gym at home I can take as long as I want and can train everyday, can do all the heavy shit.
Hoping to see the fat come off as normal but to see the strength hold firm, if I can hang onto the current muscle I have and most of the strength then I will be happy
Ok so after some careful consideration and 3 mugs of tea I am going to go with 50mg of Rohm anavar until my trip.
The anavar will be on the lower doseage scale but I'm taking it solely to help with muscle/strength preservation, both of which will be easy enough to monitor as I reduce bodyfat, so basically I will cut hard with a calorie deficit and then my gym workouts will inform me if the Var is giving me that preservation. I have Clomid for pct
I will report the results as I go along, also have taurine to help with any annoying pumps/cramps
Sounds like a plan, citrus bergamot works really well for me for keeping lipids in check while running anavar. Just tossing it out there
Thanks for the comment I will look into this
Appreciate the comments/info, at the moment work is very Labor intensive carrying shit around all day so I am burning a shit load of cals, muscle presivasion is the name of the game and I always went by the old mantra of "1 lb per week fat loss to main gains" and this takes fucking ages.
How many kg's does the dump typically lose ya mate? Lmao You from the UK I assume given the Lab you speak of?
My best was 1.5 kg, ya UK
I must critique. Why not increase your cardio, rather than use clenbuterol? You should also use a test base, at least at replacement dosage levels, if you are going to use oxandrolone.
Ya I'm thinking I might postpone the cycle until after Thailand, as I'm currently losing the weight unassisted, keep it until the fat loss gets a bit harder. Would 50mg anavar a day be mild enough to have no real sides/shutdown while aiding in maintaining current muscle mass? I'm just looking for that little help in holding onto what I have while hitting a big calorie deficit
Mild is relative to the individual. Some guys take up to 100mg, others must take even less than 50mg. I always advocate for the less is more strategy, meaning you should start off at a low dose and see how you react to it. What happens if you take 50mg for your first time and then your blood pressure goes through the roof? Slow and steady is the best approach when introducing exogenous hormones.
Whatever you decide, Test needs to be included. You run the risk of shutting your natural test down
From what I've researched Anavar isn't has suppressive is you think, but none the less a low dose or test as a base would be wise.
anvilDose dependent, at 50mg daily definitely will. I believe there was a deep dive on this and the dosage found to not shut down was 10mg.
I have know of people being severely shut down and ending up with prolonged E.D. from anavar and winstrol only cycles. Also, most dht derived compounds carry a tendency to lower or even crashing your estrogen. So imagine shutting down your testes plus crashing your estrogen, not a pretty pic. Assuming that the person is a he and not a she, he could risk a lot by not adding a test base, yes wise indeed.
Clen is 40mcg