First Cycle Thoughts
Hello,
This is my first cycle and first post. I am thinking of starting an 8-week cycle within the next week. I am getting baseline blood work done tomorrow to check Testosterone, Estradiol, and Prolactin levels. I also have week 6 blood work lined up to ensure everything runs smoothly. For starters when I first started this deep dive I 100% got trigger-happy and bought Tren, Test, and Arimidex without much thought. I'm realizing how poor of a decision that was now that I have done the research. I think I have a lot more to learn and hope that you guys can help me. This is the posed cycle including the Tren because, to be honest, I don't want to throw it out. I know the first cycle should only be Test to see your hormonal reaction but I was just playing with this idea and wanted input. If it's highly ill-advised I will repropose this as a Test cycle only.
Basic info
25 year old male
5'10"
152lb
~8% BFI
Diet
for the past 4 weeks in prep if hiked my intake. This is what I plan to hold for the duration of my cycle.
3200 calories
165g protein
400g carbs
~90g fat (some days it's like 60g)
I have been relatively consistent in the gym for 6 years and I go about 5x a week. Recently I have been going every day in addition to 45 minutes of cardio outside(walking 2.5 miles)
Cycle Stack
Tren A - 200mg/week (60mg EOD)
Test E - 400mg/week (120mg EOD)
(Pinned together)
Arimidex - .5mg E7D
Caber on standby for .25mg E3D if I need prolactin support.
PCT
The first 2 weeks after the last pin
HCG 500 IU 2x/week
Cardarine - 20mg ED
The following 5 weeks
Clomid - 50/50/25/25/12.5 (ED)
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10 (ED)
Cardarine - 20/20/20/20/20 (ED)
Ostarine - 25/25/25/12.5 (ED) (Only 4 weeks)
Aromasin - 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 (EOD) (Only 4 weeks)
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Valhalla0411You need to put mass on boss, up your protein for sure. First cycle should be test only, learn how your body reacts first, I added a compound or two at the end of my first cycle after I got comfortable with the test but that's me. 3500 calories a day average, 320ish grams of carbs, 260-290 grams of protein and about 110 grams of fat. My meals always changed so I didn't get bored eating the same shit so the nutrients always changed just a little but I gained 20pounds, 25 including some water retention, and gained about 2-3%bf maybey, but I'm pushing 210 now and I'm 5" 10". Food will be your best friend right now. Also just run the clomid and Nolvadex for pct but go 100/100/50/50 for clomid and 40/40/20/20 for Nolvadex
Just started test at 400mg a week. Got blood work done a week prior and I have blood work purchased and scheduled for week 6. Going easy like suggested. Upped my intake to 3400 I’m sitting at 200g protein 360g carbs and 90g fat I liked 50/30/20 but like you said protein needed to come up just a bit so I went a little above 1.2 per pound not quite as high as you but should still be in optimal range. The sarms on pct was a suggestion from another forum but with further research they are far from right. Nolva and clomid is the thought but I will bump start pct with HCG to get test production started. End goal is to be about 170 after the 12 week cycle and 5 weeks pct. I do think that’s pushing it a bit but ig we’ll see.
Valhalla0411That's a lot better, definitely need that protein for repairing the muscles.
Ostarine on pct? You are suppressing yourself on pct, which is counterproductive to the idea of the PCT
152lbs? You have an easy 30+lbs you can put on with just food alone which won't risk frying your HPTA. That PCT will prevent any hopes of recovery also.
I did the same thing. Went trigger happy and was just going to blast away. Then someone made me realize how stupid it was. Start with a test only first circle. See how your body responds. If you’re on TRT, figure out your TRT dose first.
After that, run just a testosterone cycle. Then next cycle add one thing to that.
If you on your first cycle, start taking numerous things, and something gives you a bad reaction…you’ll be clueless what it is.
I know it sucks. I’m impatient as fuck and wanna run my first cycle to start building my strength back since I lost it when I lost a lot of weight. I’ve put 30 lbs on in 3 months on TRT. So I’m itching to turn that into more good muscle and not fat.
Yeah, I think I'm just going to start with 350mg Test E a week for 12 weeks and pay attention to how I'm affected.
I know it fucking sucks waiting, I’m impatient and it’s killing me, but at least for me this is going to be a lifelong thing because I’m on TRT therapy so it’s even more important for me to find my TRT dose, THEN I can try my first test only cycle, and go from there.
I just remind myself that yes, this stuff can dangerous, but if you take precautions, you can minimize a lot of those risks. It takes time to do that though. You’re still young, and honestly I wouldn’t want to even touch this stuff knowing what I know now at your age.
You’re going to kill your own test production. Yes, you can jump start it with PCT, but you could very easily turn this into a life long thing because you destroyed your own test production and now need TRT. Just be safe
Wow
what?