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First Cycle Thoughts

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Hello,
This is my first cycle and first post. I am thinking of starting an 8-week cycle within the next week. I am getting baseline blood work done tomorrow to check Testosterone, Estradiol, and Prolactin levels. I also have week 6 blood work lined up to ensure everything runs smoothly. For starters when I first started this deep dive I 100% got trigger-happy and bought Tren, Test, and Arimidex without much thought. I'm realizing how poor of a decision that was now that I have done the research. I think I have a lot more to learn and hope that you guys can help me. This is the posed cycle including the Tren because, to be honest, I don't want to throw it out. I know the first cycle should only be Test to see your hormonal reaction but I was just playing with this idea and wanted input. If it's highly ill-advised I will repropose this as a Test cycle only.

Basic info
25 year old male
5'10"
152lb
~8% BFI

Diet
for the past 4 weeks in prep if hiked my intake. This is what I plan to hold for the duration of my cycle.
3200 calories
165g protein
400g carbs
~90g fat (some days it's like 60g)
I have been relatively consistent in the gym for 6 years and I go about 5x a week. Recently I have been going every day in addition to 45 minutes of cardio outside(walking 2.5 miles)

Cycle Stack
Tren A - 200mg/week (60mg EOD)
Test E - 400mg/week (120mg EOD)
(Pinned together)
Arimidex - .5mg E7D
Caber on standby for .25mg E3D if I need prolactin support.

PCT
The first 2 weeks after the last pin
HCG 500 IU 2x/week
Cardarine - 20mg ED

The following 5 weeks
Clomid - 50/50/25/25/12.5 (ED)
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10 (ED)
Cardarine - 20/20/20/20/20 (ED)
Ostarine - 25/25/25/12.5 (ED) (Only 4 weeks)
Aromasin - 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 (EOD) (Only 4 weeks)

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Just started test at 400mg a week. Got blood work done a week prior and I have blood work purchased and scheduled for week 6. Going easy like suggested. Upped my intake to 3400 I’m sitting at 200g protein 360g carbs and 90g fat I liked 50/30/20 but like you said protein needed to come up just a bit so I went a little above 1.2 per pound not quite as high as you but should still be in optimal range. The sarms on pct was a suggestion from another forum but with further research they are far from right. Nolva and clomid is the thought but I will bump start pct with HCG to get test production started. End goal is to be about 170 after the 12 week cycle and 5 weeks pct. I do think that’s pushing it a bit but ig we’ll see.

isebas76's picture

Ostarine on pct? You are suppressing yourself on pct, which is counterproductive to the idea of the PCT

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Makwa's picture

152lbs? You have an easy 30+lbs you can put on with just food alone which won't risk frying your HPTA. That PCT will prevent any hopes of recovery also.

Jaxattax86's picture

I did the same thing. Went trigger happy and was just going to blast away. Then someone made me realize how stupid it was. Start with a test only first circle. See how your body responds. If you’re on TRT, figure out your TRT dose first.

After that, run just a testosterone cycle. Then next cycle add one thing to that.

If you on your first cycle, start taking numerous things, and something gives you a bad reaction…you’ll be clueless what it is.

I know it sucks. I’m impatient as fuck and wanna run my first cycle to start building my strength back since I lost it when I lost a lot of weight. I’ve put 30 lbs on in 3 months on TRT. So I’m itching to turn that into more good muscle and not fat.

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Binkus's picture

Yeah, I think I'm just going to start with 350mg Test E a week for 12 weeks and pay attention to how I'm affected.

Jaxattax86's picture

I know it fucking sucks waiting, I’m impatient and it’s killing me, but at least for me this is going to be a lifelong thing because I’m on TRT therapy so it’s even more important for me to find my TRT dose, THEN I can try my first test only cycle, and go from there.

I just remind myself that yes, this stuff can dangerous, but if you take precautions, you can minimize a lot of those risks. It takes time to do that though. You’re still young, and honestly I wouldn’t want to even touch this stuff knowing what I know now at your age.

You’re going to kill your own test production. Yes, you can jump start it with PCT, but you could very easily turn this into a life long thing because you destroyed your own test production and now need TRT. Just be safe Smile

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hiroshixd's picture

Wow

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what?

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