posted Thu, 08/28/2025 - 10:53
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First Cycle - getting old - help needed
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48 years, been lifting for years, more for strength and performance than aesthetics. Started BJJ last year. I eat pretty well. Supplement with Creatine and protein. Bloods done recently and at high end of healthy range for total T, free T mid range. High SHBG. Don’t qualify for TRT. Feeling battered, lots of niggles, not recovering as well as I used to. Harder to stay lean and maintain muscle as I age. Want a bit of help. Never done steroids before. Tried Sarms but no discernible difference except oily skin.
Looking for a sensible first cycle and PCT primarily for recovery, feeling better, lean gains.
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So not sure if it was my error or the vendors but just received what I thought was going to be Test E 300 but was actually Boldenone 300.
Just checked back through my confirmation email and it does say that on there. Not sure how I missed it. Was sure I had selected the right product at the time.
I’m reticent to try to send it back as I guess it could be considered supplying legally? I bought £160 worth to last me the recommended first cycle period (on here).
What do you think about taking it and switching to Test E when it runs out?
From a bit of Googling it seems to be a relatively mild form with less androgenic effects than others but I’d be keen to hear some better educated views?
you can’t run just boldenone. All anabolic steroids will shut down your natural test production. Which is why all cycles must have a base of testosterone, to replace yours. You don’t want to shut down your natural test and replace it with boldenone. Your dick probably won’t work and you’ll likely suffer a host of other issues.
There’s no returns in this game lol. Stash the bold away for a potential cycle down the road and reorder test E or C.
I would start low. No sense in starting at 500 per week. Start at 100mg per week and go up from there. Starting at 500 your gonna have more risks of sides. Have an ai on hand like aromasin before you start.
Thanks all. Ordered some Test E, correct needles and swabs.
Beligas makes a great deca/test 500mg blend that really eased my joint pain allowing me to re-enter bodybuilding after almost 6 years of recovery and P.T. Id wait for a nice BOGO they have them for basically every Holliday on the top rated supplier and just stock up then.
I recommend you to do blood work before cycle. It'll help you to get a better picture of how test functions.
Start with 300-400 mg of Test Enanthate for 12 weeks, split into 2 doses per week (Monday and Thursday). Try it and compare how you feel after 2, 4 and 8 weeks.
A few things regarding Test E: it has a cumulative effect, meaning it may need some time for results to appear. Test E can cause water retention, so gains might not be purely lean mass.
I understand that a test-only cycle may be new for you, but in your situation it’s better to avoid stacks, considering you’re essentially a newbie.
Any thought on Sustanon vs Test E/C? I know when I was looking at TRT that’s what they were on about using?
Wondered what the pros/cons were?
Sustanon is not a bad option; however, considering your complete lack of experience with AAS and the somewhat “unpredictable” side effects of Sust, using just Test C or E is a better choice for you, as it will be easier to monitor side effects at your age.
Absolutely a newbie. Thanks
I would go with Ranger's or Asa's approach, depending on whether you want to go for 300mg or 500mg per week of Test E/C. 16 weeks in length
Any thought on Sustanon vs Test E/C? I know when I was looking at TRT that’s what they were on about using?
Yes, don't bother with it mate. Its designed to be injected every single day for best results - or at least every other day. Stick with Test E would be my advice as thats what we tend to use over here, Cypionate tends to be used more in the US and thats what they tend to get prescribed on TRT. No real difference between Cyp and Enanthate mate.
@press1 can you PM this fella and help him out please. Fellow Brit in his 40s
At 48 you probably aren't trying to have any more kids right? So no need for a pct unless you need to come off for a reason. I would start with 500mg a week of test E, split twice a week. Twice a week gives your muscles time to heal between pins. Seeing as you're new and probably are not going to be pinning in every muscle for awhile after you feel the initial pip from first time. I would use your glutes and ventral glutes, that gives you 4 places to cycle thru. 25ga 1" for pinning, 18ga for loading the syringe. Use luer lock syringes because then you can just change the needle and you're good to go after you draw it up. I would, personally, just stay on the 500mg year round if blood work is all good. or you could drop down to 250mg every 3 or 4 months, personal decision.
Sounds great. Nice and simple.
Defo no more kids. Had the snip to make sure of that.
Ordered some needles and just shopping for Test E.
They seem to come in 10ml containers and then brand name 250 for example. Does that mean two whole containers of that each week?
Sorry if I’m being a bit thick. Better to ask a stupid question than stay stupid tho. --
Actually just had another look and it’s 250g/ml so 1ml twice a week? Sorry
Yes mate - 1ml on a Monday and Thursday.
Thanks all. Not bothered about PCT if I don’t have to, just assumed I did. Lack of knowledge.
So the consistent theme running in the replies was maybe Test E or C
Somewhere between 250 - 500mg per week, split either every 3 days or m/w/f. 16 weeks?
Bloods at 4-6 weeks then regularly.
What should I be looking for numbers wise. I’m currently 28 nmol/l total, 0.370 free. Any red flags to look out re how body reacts? Or doesn’t, indicating more needed?
Then a cruise period at a lower dose, is that indefinite or for a period of time before ramping it up again.
I’m in the UK, is there a cheap way of getting bloods done? I did it through a TRT clinic before.
Also, I’m happy to inject but never have never done it. Is there somewhere on here regarding what needles to use, gauge etc. or I’d be grateful if somebody could advise.
Then, I know there’s no recommendations allowed but is the best idea to look at the reviews etc. for a reliable supplier?
Thanks again. I know this is very basic. Help appreciated.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/blood-work-bibl...
A good bloodwork read
Just look at the top 10 sources . Domestic will be faster but more expensive. International will be cheaper but longer wait.
Needles - amazon " slin pins 29 guage 1/2 inch for delts"
25 guage 1 inch for glutes.
I use a 20 guage needle to draw and backload into the injection syringe .
Thanks v much, and the cruise bit, how long for?
Ideally the same amount of time you spend on cycle. To give your organs a break and let your bloodwork normalize, but also to let things like myostatin normalize. This is what limits muscle growth and keeps your body at homeostasis. after some time on cycle, usually 8-12 weeks myostatin will increase to slow down muscle growth. At a certain point you can be on a shitload of steroids and basically grow as slow as you do naturally due to myostatin. If you jump back on too soon the results will be sub optimal.
1 - 2 months for me
And get a lot of alcohol pads
Id go some sust 500mg wk., some npp 300mg wk, id say primo or masteron if you can find it, if enanthate 600mg wk., if propionate 300mg. Wk., or boldenone cypionate 500mg wk. Some dbol or adrol, probably better with dbol first 6 weeks. That's if you wanna build.
If you just want a Lil boost and some joint relief 250to300 mg test e or c wk, 250mg deca wk, 250mg masteron wk. Or primo, you can take 25mg dbol for few weeks here and there. And you can probably do that until you retire from training then just do test and deca and let dose a Lil if you want
That's your recommendation for a FIRST cycle?
Are you not familiar with my coach, Big Mikey? Man’s got PhD-level knowledge and nuclear-level protocols. We don’t do ‘first cycles’ here, we do first missions to Mars.
Haha I envy the fearless approach, I really do. I'm a bitch when it comes to intense cycles and compounds.
exactly lmao. dudes like hey i've never touched anything and just want a little boost. well bro, you just need about 2 grams a week and that'll give you the boost you're looking for. lmao. i would've at least told him to start one product at a time to gauge how he is feeling if he was to do that.
Ranger3252I like a test E or C cycle for about 12-16 weeks. Maybe 250 mg every three days and adjust from there after your first blood work about 4-6 weeks in, at your age no need for PCT I would just cruise on 200mg a week 100mg administered every three days.
300mg test e per week.
Pinned M,W,F
16 weeks. Get Bloods drawn at week 4 -6. Try and get bloodwork every 5 weeks or so to monitor how your body responds.
I would run a cruise after instead of pct but if pct is the route you want to take, there are good protocols on here you can research up.