posted Sun, 11/26/2023 - 02:51
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First cycle
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Gonna order from pm rounds the following
Tri test 350 (it's e, p, c)
Anavar 50mg daily
Aromasin every 2 days for like 12.5mg
And as PCT 21 days of 50mg clomid
Going for strength and fat loss in this cycle, muscle gain is not the most important thing for me here.
My current meal plan is about 2100 kcal a day and about 300g protein, going to continue that have been doing 10-20k steps daily for last 4 months and already lost substantial amounts of weight now it's time to get the fine things done. Planning on taking the above for a 10 week cycle.
Any advice is appreciated I can also provide my terrible blood work which is the main reason for this cycle if your interested.
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Yes he does its almost like its too good to be true may try it out
Go for it man. See Rockiesguy623 @DavosD sometimes we have to think outside the box so to speak. If an idea isn't reckless or harming then that idea should be at least heard out. Now whether we use it or not is up to the individual. I know you guys can understand.
I don't mind trying new things as long as they make sense and are safe
Honestly I inject only in the stomach area.
I seperate my stomach in different injection sites. The love handles left and right are 2 sites.
The area above the belly button left and right and below the belly button left and right are 4 sites.
The area on the left and right side of the belly button are 2 sites.
So I'd hit every 'site' once every 8 days.
What size pins do you recommend?
25G 5/8 inch, you could get away with half an inch if you are lean.
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Thank man much appreciated
No problem bro.
Fred423subq is injecting it into fat tissue right? is that easier than im? would you recommend it for beginners as well?
I would advice anyone under the age of 25 to NOT use steroids. See your doctor.
Agreed
Hey that makes it alot easier no doubt.
So sub q huh? I remember one time that topic was debated heavily on these forums. A guy even posted subq bloods similar to an IM injection. It was crazy. His test was overdosed though.
On a subq cycle atm, 525mg test per week daily subq injections of 0,3 cc test-e. I feel absolutely great. Als a lot less bloating, and I look great. For me the problem with e3d injections were the peaks and dips, I'm really sensitive to hormonal changes (which is why I don't bother using shit like deca and tren). I need to keep my hormones as steady as possible.
I could do daily IM injections but I don't feel like pinning every injection side in my body lol. And also 7 pins a week greatly increases the risk of infection. I'd rather have an infection in fatty tissue than muscle tissue.
I've experimented with daily alternating im and subq injections (which was also great), but just straight up subq daily made me feel better.
That's interesting man. Have you gotten bloods on 500mg sub q? Sounds like this is working for you. I would hate to pin IM everyday. I could probably do small sub q EOD. But for me, IM is the way to go.
Yes, free test was sky high, test was capped but over double the max natty range.
Cool. I know estro had to be a bit lower. I wonder why free test was sky high? Maybe something to it.
Estro was high as fuck bro lol. I'll send you the results, let me find em real quick.
That was from the last blast, I just started this blast so getting bloodwork in 6 weeks
Really? Well the aromatise enzyme is in fat cells but some have reported lower e2. Thanks for sending results.
I have less e2 side effects (bloating) on subq injections but I tend to aromatise a lot anyway. I don't mind my e2 being out of range. Taking AI makes me feel like shit at any dose. Ive experimented with microdosing aswell but everytime I just looked flat and felt like shit.
O so you are a high e2 converter. Ok I see. Usually what I see are guys that don't aromatise much tend to have more issues with an Ai so they gotta be extra careful about crashing their estrogen..I'm one of those guys.
I’m on subq trt 100mg a week. My numbers are around 450. They are generally 200 without it. I think quality of gear matters.
You much each pin and how many times you pin?
Yes quality of gear does matter. 450 not bad for 100mg sub q.
I started on some older rp4u that I had in the safe. I’m starting my fourth week at 500mg a week. I feel good, even better… higher body temp, etc… I’ll get bloodwork week 8.
follow up with us with your sub q blood work. Even though I love IM I'd still like to see your scores.
Doing the same, there is this feel good effect that I never get from im injections and I don't look like a bloated mess.
I stopped doing IM injections since 2019.
Fred423Doctor gave me a 250mg one month depot oil of test e, does that compare? Said it would hurt pretty bad
Are you on trt? Why were your labtest numbers so low?
Fred423Actually no completely clean no substances of any kind
Yea you won't see Doctors giving 300+ mg/mL testosterone shots. 200- 250mg/mL vials is the norm. Some like myself who are pip sensitive may feel a little something but nothing horrible.
Oh no 250 mg ml is a cake walk almost no pain unless you're new to it high mg gear with prop in it you will be in for some mighty painful shots you'd be discouraged you won't want to move work out etc I've seen some guys on here with golf ball sized injection sites
Fred423So I'll just blast 500 test e and 100 test c for shits and giggles, I have high estrogen so I'll just buy aromasin tbh sound okay?
Listen at the end of the day you're gonna do what you want with the issues you got going on I don't think anyone here is gonna co sign on any cycle this site is full of good info and good people but no one is gonna help you ruin you're health more by suggesting gear dosages or to cycle or not
Agreed +1
High estrogen? 20pg/ml is the bottom range of estrogen in male
Fred423Actually looked it up that's about 21000 Pg/ml if you transfer it
Fred423It's ng is that the same as pg
Why both test C and E?
I'm starting to think this guy is a troll looking for a co-sign. Smh. 'Shits and giggles'...
I kinda miss Rusty when it comes to these kind of topic, he would rip this guy a new one lol.
Greg gave a good response already.
O trust me the Infamous Rusty Hooker is lurking. Matter of fact he's reading this right now just burning up inside wanting to lash out!
Lmao his fat little fingers are aching to type up a storm.
Lol
Fred423Who is rusty
I think this is Rusty
Fred423I don't know what co-sign is and shits and giggles is just a thing I say when I try to avoid having to explain me doing something very dumb
Lol doing something very dumb can have severe consequences. I'm sure you understand. Now using both c and e together isn't horrible just kinda pointless. Some notice a minor difference but both are interchangeable. But hey like you said..shits and giggles.
500mg of test e or c is plenty. There is no reason to go over 500mg your first 3 cycles.
Fred423Ok won't thanks it might not seem like it but I am just trying to get advice though I am probably a bit stupid and like to stick with things once I've set my mind to it hence the stupid statements I made