I LOVE HGH ... & question about lethargy
I've been running haidee's hyges for about 2 months now and I love HGH. Anyone that tells you growth needs to be ran 6 months+ for results is full of shit or repeating recycled board posts. if you know your body well enough, the results will be evident to you in much shorter time. I'm also running AAS, but can easily identify the changes from GROWTH vs AAS. That being said, like all other aesthetic/performance enhancing drugs, they work best on someone who has an already fit body (9-11% bf here), toned-in diet, a good feel for their body, and a healthy knowledge of real and bro-science. HGH has really been the fucking icing on my muscle-cake. k now for a question...
Ok, my question is... does anyone know the science behind HGH & lethargy/sleepiness? I've noticed if i fast carbs for 2 hours post-inject (i shoot 4iu's first thing in the morning) that i DON'T become a sleepy shithead; however, today I drank a simple-carb heavy shake (berries/banana/greek yogurt/dextrose/almond butter/chocolate milk/2 packs of instant oats/3 scoops protein) about 45 mins post-inject and i can barely keep my fucking head up at my desk. I'm assuming something to do with insulin sensitivity? I've googled/read some boards and cant find an answer that makes enough sense. anyone here got some knowledge for me?
feel free to reply on both your love of hgh or an answer to the question. thanks dudes
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I think its from the large IGF1 release. Kind of like a baby...ever notice how they sleep all the time?
shoot before bed on empty stomach, guarentee youll never go back. ALL of your sleep will be REM and this alone will 2x your recovery/ gains. And because youl be spiking your levels your fat will be incinerated and it will work in synergy because sleep is when your largest pituitary pulse occurs
UFOEven thought this post is old as dirt...the issue with night time injects comes down to age. If you are still younger(under 35) your body is still producing natural GH during your REM sleep. So injecting right before sleep could potentially ruin your natural production of gh. Me being 25 I also inject first thing in the morning so I have the least chance of fucking up my natural release at night...
BiteyWell I wouldn't say ruin. You can't harm your endogenous production of HGH from exogenous injections. You can suppress release like you said, but you can't damage your HGH production from shots.
There hasn't been a single documented case of this happening in all of HGH history. HGH isn't like Test. It doesn't have atrophy effects. Your pituitary just won't pulse if you have too much via a negative feedback loop.
As for whether morning injections don't invoke the negative feedback loop at night I don't know.
bt843i agree with you i started noticing results after about 3 weeks and good results after a few months
wow, good to know! I just looked up a few sources to confirm this, and you are right exogenous GH in fact does suppress for several hours post injection. I guess I`ll be running it 1st thing upon waking and abstain from eating for at least 1 hr. Glad I got you guys around.
Cheers!
(berries/banana/greek yogurt/dextrose/almond butter/chocolate milk/2 packs of instant oats/3 scoops protein). Holy christ... If I drank that first thing in the morning, I would probably feel a bit sleepy about 45 mins in, GH or no GH.
Have you tried your GH before bed time? If not, why not? I'm about to run 1-2ius of GH myself soon, and I love reading posts like this.... as you pointed out, your post isn't some copy and pasted broscience or from some beast whos been running blue/red/yellow tops/pharma for years on end talking about how 6iu-10iu for 6 months is the bare minimum before you feel anything. Right on bro, can't wait to start. Some of us aren't running grams of test a day and blowing through kits of GH like its water.
nice! you'll love it man. haha and i love that shake!! granted, it takes me 1-2 hours to finish but before GH, id survive ;)
I'm 26 years old, so GH before bed doesn't make sense... essentially, i'd just be replacing my natural pulse. by using in the morning, im reaping the benefits of my natural and synthetics.
I weigh almost 200lbs and im sub 10%bf on a 5'9" frame. there is NO reason for me to run much more than 4iu's of growth/day. i dont compete. i just like looking awesome
I`ll be 31 in a few months... I've been reading, researchinig and debating wether to run it in the morning, split, or at night... ED, EOD, blast E3D, 5/2. My head started to spin after reading posts as every one contradicted the other... I decided go with rips and start with 1iu and ramp up to 2iu to 3iu, 5 days on, 2 days off. Current protocol is to use at night since I already have slight sleeping issues anyway. I did read that rHGH releases before your body's natty HGH release and one does't supress the other... but then again that was posted in a few threads with a sea of people arguing their methods. So who the hell knows right?
dont know a whole lot about hgh but i know a fair amount about insulin release since my family has a horrible history of diabetes. high blood sugar is know to cause lethargy and hgh is known to cause some insulin resistance. its possible that when you eat simple carbs with the injection, the insulin resistance causes your blood sugar to be elevated longer than normal in turn causing the tiredness. hopefully someone can elaborate on this b/c i think you are definitely right in that it is caused by insulin sensitivity. do is happen every time you eat simple carbs? or only right after an injection?
nice man. thats great feedback. im going to google around .
i am noticably tired throughout the day with POST inject carbs (0-2 hours post inject) . ive played around with a million different timings, and narrowed it down to this
you could try getting a blood glucose meter and test morning midday and evening. they are only like $20 and it would give you an idea if it is blood sugar causing it. maybe 2 hours is the peak in insulin resistance after hgh injection?
id get tired from that shake without hgh bro lol. looks like quite a bit of sugar in that shake.
lol, I hear ya. I've noticed on other days as well, not just yesterday (was just giving an example). its funny even somehting simply like eating a handful of blueberries or a banana or greek yogurt in that post-inject window will result of my sleepiness. i know there HAS to be a reason
not to answer your question but im intrested in hgh and looking for some advice on exactly what to get and how much and of course the best place to order it
Go research forums mang! Research
wtf dude? you want me to come over to your crib and inject it for you too? -1 for high-jacking my thread to ask a dumb question
Raises igf--1...... Act like insulun spike?