first of all a guy new to gh cant even use more then 2/3 ius of growth a day. it takes years to get your body to utilize the much gh. 2nd growth hormone has almost very little to do with muscle growth. by itself youll be very upset with gh. yet it will enhance you test very well but gh is not how those guys get huge. insulin and t3 must be used as well to see any real muscle gain. and I do not recommend any one use diabetic insulin. bottom line is gh aint the magic powder all these kids think is, its just a tool in the box. growth hormone is made for kids with growth problems anti aging clinics and trauma and burn victums. its not made with the purpose of body building in mind, I think to many people confuse it or its effects with igf1, which by the way aint all the fantastic either. with all that said it is a wonderful thing and if its used right can yield great effects.