+ 3 American vs Chinese hgh
I found this article on somatropin.cn
Is there a difference between big pharma and Chinese generics? Other then the 90/10 price ratio, both are identical! Western Big Pharma use the same exact production procedure (recombinant DNA technology) and equipment as Chinese labs.
Chinese laws regarding GMP and safety of medicine related products are stricter than those in the west.
The identification, purification and later synthesis of growth hormone was first accomplished by a Chinese pioneer Choh Hao Li. Nowadays almost everything used in the west is made in China(our Asia at least) both the high and low quality products.
Human growth hormone(somatropin) is a large and fragile 191 amino acid sequence molecule with a molecular weight of approximately 22,000 Daltons. There is no room for differences. The substance is either somatropin or it is not. If the molecule gets distorted even a little, it will no longer bind to human growth receptors.
The reason Chinese goods are often seen as inferior is the car availability of cheaper copies of everything(clothes, electronics,etc.) Which visually appear the same as a original. But are composed of cheaper, inferior material and are thus lower quality and less durable. With production of somatropin this is not possible.The necessary equipment to even create it, comes at a multi million dollar price tag. So steroid "bathtub"labs are not capable of making it.
The only somatropin manufacturing method which is still in used today (both in the west and Asia) is the recombinant DNA technology where E coli bacteria are genetically modified to secrete human growth hormone. Which is then isolated and can either be lyophilized (freeze dried) our stored in the liquid form.
While somatropin is in the liquid form, it is very sensitive to temperature and shaking. If not refrigerated and handled with care the molecule are easily destroyed. While in freeze dried state, somatropin is not sensitive to shaking. This is why it is shipped in this form.
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nos88hygetropin aka chinese hgh already has been tried and tested to raise both IGF-1 and serum levels.
great article but, since you found it on the somatropin.cn it could be biased toward generics
That is true
Very informational.. good read brother.+1
Thx brutha
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Good post bro. what you see with the chinese stuff is it will raise serum but not igf-1 meaning like you said "the molecule gets distorted even a little, it will no longer bind to human growth receptors." And thats what tends to happen is yes the stuff in the vials we get is real HGH, but is no bioavailable. Idk if big pharm kicks stuff that gets messed up out the back door? Would love to know more about this kinda stuff. If the people who make blue/yellow/black/green tops etc really have a multi million dollar facility why dont they make the presentation look a little better and sell them for more.
Those are all good questions. I'm on a mission for answers.
I would love to know this stuff. Because like you said there is no bathtub brew of gh. It million dollar labs and highly educated scientists to make this stuff the process is very complicated. But you know pzier doesnt have its "blue top" division over there in china lol. So somebody's making this shit. Idk i think the blue tops and yellows an all that are like the bad batches and thats why the constancy is so bad. So XXX source bus 500 grams of a bad batch of gh but its still 50% bioavailable. So instead of getting the full 10uis we only get 5. So great its still gh. Then next month they go buy another 500 grams but this time the batch was badly damaged and non of it is bioavailable. So then we get our next kits of blue tops and there bunk. Because that seems to be the case with these generics is consistency. From what ive read despite our modern technology this stuff is still really hard to make. But thats my only guess.
Good post. In the us big pharma tells whoever what the price is....other countries with socialized health care TELL big pharma what they are gonna pay. Its bullshit because big pharma's own countrymen are paying outrageous prices and while big pharma is still making a profit in socialized countries. Why cant they sell the pharma goods to us for the same price?!?! Because lobbyists in dc get their palms greased.
Damn shame what our country has brought itself down to. Couldn't agree more bro.