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Sarm suggestion to add to my cycle

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Any Sarm suggestions? Would appreciate any hints regarding preferred sources or if there is a pm on this site of some sort. I'm new to here and don't know how the messaging system works I just know you can't openly say your source.

About to start my 3rd var only cycle but looking to spice things up with potential addition. I know everyone is against oral only cycles but I have now done 4. First time I was led to believe it was var but I'm pretty sure it was cut with like anadrol cause I blew up like a whale and had worse than expected sides and suppression after. I didn't pct that time because of the whole var doesn't aromatize deal but took DAA all the other times just to help me stay on track. Thinking about adding ostarine for potential joint support gains this time around because var dries you out a lot. Was also considering Rad140 but it's pretty new and expensive and doesn't seem that much better than say lgd aside from the whole mood changes which seems cool. I also am considering adding the gh secretogague MK-677 for potential muscle gains, fat loss, and joint support. I am sort of feeling like I would definitely need to run some nolva this time around if I add any sarms, but let's see what you have to say.

Don't bother trying to convince me to run test. I won't, my living situation at the moment just isn't ideal to be stabbing myself with needles every week or so. Maybe once I move out from home we'll see. I've seen awesome gains from my Var only cycles anyways.

This is what I did in past cycles and will do again:

Weeks 1-3: Mon-Thurs 80mg, Fri-Sun 50mg
Weeks 4-6: Mon-Fri 100mg, Sat-Sun 50mg
Week 7: Mon-Fri 100mg, Fri-Sun 80mg
Week 8: Mon-Sun 100mg

I believe last cycle I started the 100mg days earlier but only because I had an event coming up that I wanted to get big for.

My last var only cycle I put on about 10 lbs of lean muscle and lost some body fat. I never really go above 10% bf. My bench went up considerably this past cycle to more than it ever has. I went from maxing 325lbs at the start to maxing 365lb at the end. Not bad for oral only cycle. One complaint about var in the past is that the dryness hinders my leg day due to lower back pain. Other than that I love Var. I started the last cycle around 200lbs and ended around 210 with a high point of 213 or so. I retained the most weight I ever have after this past cycle as well. I am currently 204lbs and still rocking a well defined six pack.

Anyways any thoughts about adding sarms are welcome. Yelling at me to take test is not...

Caeser's picture

Young blood... You're going to have a difficult time getting the feedback you want here. You're 23 (as TrenAllDay said) which = no AAS talk. Your new on this forum, your stats aren't posted properly (BF%), you haven't posted pix, & you're dictating the feedback that you want to hear....

" I know everyone is against oral only cycles but I have now done 4."
"...any thoughts about adding sarms are welcome. Yelling at me to take test is not..."

Hate to break it to you mate, but it doesn't work this way. First & foremost your 23... so nobody should be giving you AAS advices here... Secondly, it's obvious you need to do more research... you have 2 years to read through the plethora of info in the Forum section to enhance your knowledge. In that time, you should be able to achieve all that you're looking for with the natural Testosterone that a 23 year old would produce.

It's likely that you're going to do what you want to do anyways, but I doubt anyone's going to cosign what you're asking for.

TrenAllDay's picture

its not the test theyre gonna yell at you for...its for being 23 yrs old...and showing your full face....and doing an oral only cycle...and no test....and being 23 yrs old....and that cycle layout makes no sense

oorino's picture

Duly noted. Your opinions are welcome but running var and var only really isn't all that detrimental to my body. You say it makes no sense, and I'm sure it doesn't for you, but I tend not to experience any of the negative sides or they are mild at the most. I came on here to gain information and knowledge about the world of anabolics not be criticized/yelled at by dudes named TrenAllDay... I will not argue that I am young for starting to cycle, but I am certainly not the youngest on here. Given that I am young, I have chosen to take a mild anabolic so as to avoid the many potential negative sides associated with heavier gear. Additionally, as I mentioned, I am currently living at home. I just graduated college and started working and am living home to save money for year or so. Living home and pricking myself just isn't feasible.

TrenAllDay's picture

i wont discuss your cycle but no matter if youre taking a gram of test a week or 50mg of var a day, they both suppress your HPTA...no the var wont give you crazy night sweats or insomnia, but it does hurt your hpta just as the "heavier gear" does

oorino's picture

Every single thing I have read as well as my personal experience has shown that your HPTA returns to homeostasis no more than a few months after ending the cycle and that's without any support from serm based pct what so ever. There are many studies which support this as well. Listen I appreciate your input, but I do not see maximum 2 months of suppression impacting me that drastically. Can we agree to disagree? I'd really like to hear people's take on these sarms. I've honestly been considering trying them separate from the var.