+ 1 CJC1295 (DAC), Ipam Boom dose. Ideal dosing and Mod or not?
I keep meaning to post more, stop thinking, start doing I guess.
Anyway I'm soon to start a cycle of CJC (DAC) and Ipam boom dosed pre bed and I'm not sure if it's worth adding Mod GRF 1-29 pre bed with the Ipam. Also not sure of best dosing for best results.
Questions:
1) Ideal dose of CJC DAC
2) Ideal pre bed boom dose of Ipam
3) Mod Grf 1-29 pre bed even though already running CJC??
4) Mod Grf dose if applicable?
I don't have a limit of how much I can use, so don't use cost as any reason for limiting dose.
My initial thoughts on dosing:
6mg to 9mg a week of cjc, two shots per week.
2mg to 4mg Ipam daily, pre bed
Mod GRF 100mcg with ipam pre bed (if worth it)????
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Weighing 97kg at the mo.
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So what were the results? Did you run the mod Grf also??
Pretty cool theory and why not?
I love big doses but Dac makes me bloated
First with such a high dose of CJC running MOD GRF is pointless.
huperzine A is an excellent tool to manipulate your GH secretion. As i understand it, it inhibits a hormone which ends the pulse of GH and the next Pulse wont begin untill that hormone dissipates.
As Ipam is a GHRP that as i understand it increases the rate at which GH is released (usually during a pulse). If you wanted to maximize your GH pre-bed load up on huperzine A an hour or so before you boom ipam. This will stop the pulse ending during ipam and cause you to release most of your GH.
At some stage it becomes a matter of how quickly your pituitary can produce GH Rather than how you can get your pituitary to release it, and with such high dosages of CJC id rather run huperzine A at a high dose before bed as this will increase the GH released by CJC for the next 5 hours or so. And would not bother with Ipam. I dont see any reason for the short increased pulse provided by Ipam while running CJC + huperzine A, other than PWO.
DISCLAIMER: All bro science, Listen to me at your own risk.
Forgot to mention I'm also running huperzine a, EGCg, and horny goat weed. All twice daily.
I'm now running CJC 9mg split 2x wk, and ipam 3x wk on a boom dose 2mg at night, with ghrp2 20mins pre workout and slin 20mins later, immediately pre workout. Usually other gear, test etc
I agree with crazymofo and if I was you then I would just stick with one of the them (either Mod GRF or CJC with DAC).
GRF mod 1-29 is analogue to Growth hormone releasing Hormone. It has a half life that is at least 30 minutes so probably the best before bed and stack it together with Ipamorelin.
But to answer your questions:
1) Ideal dose of CJC DAC.
A: Use CJC-1295 with DAC is in dose between 2000 mcg to 5000 mcg a week. Divide this into injected two day per week and 3 times per day ( in dose 100 mcg per injection). It is taken for 15 weeks by subcutaneous injection.
2) Ideal pre bed boom dose of Ipam
A: Ipamorelin is used in dose 200 mcg to 300 mcg by subcutaneous injection 2-3 times per day. It is taken in the morning, post workout and before bed.
3) Mod Grf 1-29 pre bed even though already running CJC??
A: Go with only one of them together with Ipdamorelin, but again it also depends on your goals.
4) Mod Grf dose if applicable?
A: GRF mod 1-29 is recommended to use in dose 100 mcg at a time. It is injected 3 times per day and two days per week by subcutaneous injection. Its administration is taken in the morning, post workout and before bed.
It is waste of Peptide to do overdose. Stick to the recommended and start low.
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
Yeah I'm aware of what it is and how it works for the most part.
CJC causes an increase in baseline gh levels whereas mod is used to amplify a pulse created by a ghrp, ipam in this case.
My goal is an increase in gh and all that goes with it.
Define overkill and why pointless? Wouldn't it amplify the ipam pulse to any large degree? or will the presence of CJC do this anyway when the Ipam is added?
I struggle getting multi shots of ghrp in the day so boom dosing ipam (yes thats what I mean) is going to be my preference.
CJC 1295 w/dac increases baseline GH by increasing GH pulses.Some think it shuts off the pulsing mechanism often referred to as GH bleed, but medical studies show pulsivity is actually maintained. It is still being studied for medical usage. That's why I say adding the ghrh without a dac would be pointless.
Everyone I have seen boom dose the ipam will do it 2-3 times a week to try and prevent desensitization. I have taken it up to 1g at night along with 100mcg mod grf and really didn't see much of a benefit. I also was doing 200mcg ghrp6/100mcg mod grf 2 times a day. I have found I like to keep my ghrps at 200mcg and ghrh at 100mcg. And I run them for long periods.
But I have to say it is trial and error with the peps. No cookie cutter one size fits all. I would say start lower like 500mcg and see if you get the muscle fullness effect. If you get a big pulse you will get flush in the face for a few minutes. Then you can always go up from there and find your own sweet spot.
You could also look into huperzine A. Most people take it with cjc. I have never taken it as I stick with the short half-life stuff. And typical dose for CJC is 5mg/wk split into 2 doses.
Right, makes sense.
Would adding mod give a further increase and allow lower ipam dose?
Was thinking boom dose ipam ED.. how severe and how fast does desensitization occur? I can do 3x wk if its an issue.
I also have huperzine a, EGCg and horny goat weed to improve effect seeing as its CJC1295 not mod.
I would think it would be a waste with the mod BUT you could give it a try I mean its pretty cheap so worst case scenario it doesn't do anything.
As far as desensitization goes it is hard to say. When I was doing high dose Ipam pre bed it was for more of the sleep benefits. I started at 300mcg and after a week or so added another 100mcg til I hit 1g a night. I had an absolute crap load of Ipam and was just testing the boom dose. Pretty quickly( matter of a couple weeks) I was no longer getting that flush feeling. Now that is in no way scientific I could have still been getting a bigger release but just 'adapted' to it. But from all the literature i have read the consensus was it was overkill.
If i ever do daily boom dosing again it will be on a bulker with actual GH(pharma). I would take the large dose of peps in the mourning followed by GH 10-15 mins later. The idea would be to get the large endogenous pulse then supplement it with GH. I could then hit just ghrp6 a couple times later in the day to help appetite.
Here is a good read:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/peptides/ghrps-ghrhs
What are your goals with the peptides?
cjc w/dac is mod grf(1-29) with a drug affinity complex that merely causes it to bind to albumin and in laymen terms 'survive' in the body. So using both would be overkill and probably pointless.
The cjc dose is on the high end and the ipam dose is pretty high. Some like it that high but I always find it a waste.
And when you say Ipam Boom I am assuming you mean Boom dosing?