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Can't sleep lately

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So I don't sleep the best to begin with. I stay on a trt dose of test permanently. I still take a couple NyQuil caps for the past couple years. Currently I started a cycle 8 weeks ago. Test 700mg deca 400mg dbol 50mg first 4 weeks. 6ius of hgh , 50mg of proviron, .25 of caber twice a week and a quarter of letro once a week. I started at 218 and I'm currently at 244. I feel that things have been a little harder with the weight gain because I have never been this weight ever in my life, and I truly believe I am past my genetic potential. And when I say harder I mean I get out of breath more easily, and my body aches sometimes. It seems it's alot harder to get comfortable in bed and my girl says I'm snoring now which I never have. alot of it is quality muscle but some is water and a little fat. Overall I'm pleased with how I look but I just can't sleep. Any advice or possible options would be appreciated.

bigjrock's picture

Alright well the day before yesterday I moved up on the growth from 6ius to 10. Reason I did that was I tested my igf levels and I was disappointed with the numbers so I made a big jump in dose. So yesterday I really felt like shit. And I knew I was retaining a ton of water from the hgh. I weighed 246 yesterday and today I weighed 238. So I had put on 8 pounds of water in a day. I took a dieuretic from my work and I got rid of all the water. Thank god because I was really feeling like crap. I'm gonna cut a little fat and that will help out as well. Thanks everyone for the advice

Makwa's picture

Loose some of that water weight. Take some natural diuretics like dandelion root and some mega vit-c like 5g/d or more for a week and you should be able to drop a bunch of water and sleep better.

RangerVet's picture

The rapid weight gain is definitely causing snoring and possibly sleep apnea like said below. Be safe

giardap's picture

Youre are on a water retention and inflammation generating powerhouse of a cycle. A doctor would class you as clinically obese, even at sub 10% bf (point being organ stress from extra load). Add em up and you will likely snore, happens to me too at 250.

Id suggedt a simple reset period where you drop carbies, ditch the dbol and lower test. I'd also be inclined to drop gh to say 2ius to help maintain lipolysis and metabolism. In the reset period you could lose all inflammation generating foods, have animal protein-free days etc and really clear house.

Should sort it right out. Drop water and fat weight then get back to building meat when ready.

Dacky's picture

Sounds like the extra weight and the snoring is indicative of this. When I get to 240lb I snore like a mother fucker and sleep badly. That said the best and I mean I’ve tried everything from natural to really hardcore pharmaceutical hypnotics (some of them illegal in some countries) is hands down 40 to 80mg of CDB/CBDa. I use the oil and it works like a charm. Helps me with my recovery and less pain/joint issues when not on cycle too.

Dr.BroScience's picture

You can not sleep yet you state that you are sleeping next to a women.

Perhaps you and your lady friend should investigate engaging in an activity that you may both enjoy prior to bedtime that would encourage a pleasant restful sleep.

mrbones's picture

There are lots of good sleeping supplemements out there. One by ard nutrition, one by redco, etc.when i look at a supp like that i am looking for a couple things.

Melatonin
Calcuim
Zinc (can be zma or not)
Magnesuim
Vit D
Protein before bed (cheese or dairy if you eat that stuff)
Lastly no sugar past 5 and no caffeine after noon

Also i think i saw your on hgh. Make sure the bulk of what you take is before bed. Your natural cycle utilzes increase pituitary action while sleeping.

Hope that helps brother

vhman's picture

I’ve had trouble sleeping my whole life. It’s gotten better the older I get though.

I can say that it was always worse when I tried to medicate it with pharmaceuticals or OTC’s. They may Work for a short while, but they stop working and make things worse. I found that consistent lifting and cardio are the best remedies. Also, a little simple carbs before bed also help (the crash afterwards).
My point here is that any Meds should only be for a short term and really avoided if possible. Just man up and ride it out. Wake up early and be consistent on your sleep times. Don’t nap either.

stairmaster's picture

I have the same problems but not cause steroids, because private problems and always busy.

I like following:
- 2mg Melatonin
- 1 big cup of fat free hot milk

RangerVet's picture

I send fr. Would ask you to try something

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ashop's picture

AAS can stimulate the CNS which in return can cause insomnia.
Try the natural path first. 3mg of Melatonin before bed.

Sam I Am's picture

Next time I can’t sleep I’ll blame it on you Smile

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fusebox's picture

Have a sleep study. You might have sleep apnea

helloBrooklyn's picture

I had a sleep study done. I requested that I be woken up as soon as the test was over so I could go home, no matter what the time was. I kid you not, when they woke me up I had my dick in my hand. Rock hard. So. Embarrassing. I didn’t even know I was doing it!

fusebox's picture

Lmao. I hope it was at least a hot chick

Sam I Am's picture

That’s how I know my gears working. Lol

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Jayzgainz's picture

I've puffed up a bit myself lately. Im sitting at 236 right now. This was on purpose but still I dont like it. Anyway, I have been having issues staying asleep. Like the guys below said, zma, valerian and the quick dissolve melatonin seem to help a bit. I am not a pill popper, I have a history so I try not to take asprin unless completely neccesary. But last week was a bad one so I went and saw my dr and was prescribed something. Took it for 2 nights and was a huge help. So ig i cannot be resolved naturally best see a dr. Also, when do you take your gh? If you're not taking it at night maybe try that. May help. How about your schedule. Can you maybe get up earlier so you're more tired at bedtime? Not sleeping suck bad. I wish you good luck!

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Well beyond natty potential. Might have to just lose some weight.

IrishJerk's picture

Trazadone 100mg Works for me not addictive it is my formula for kicking the “Droolers ” Xanax
Not sleeping sucks most of the time.

Sam I Am's picture

Have you checked your blood pressure? I would also look st hemocrit.

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bigjrock's picture

I just pulled labs. My hemotacrit is good. It's in range. Estrogen is perfect. Blood pressure is a little higher than normal. Im actually looking forward to ending this cycle soon. I actually think I'm holding alot of water right now. I just jumped on the scale and my weights up alittle more.

JARHEAD2's picture

I’d drop the NyQuil & use natural supps like melatonin quick dissolve & Valerian root & ZMA. I don’t take melatonin or valerian every night, but you can without worry. I do take zma every night & due to good advice I’ve added 50 mg of zinc to it. Give it try bro!

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