posted Mon, 11/21/2016 - 07:40
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Hello everyone. I am new to this forum although I have done a few different cycles in the past and have some experience with AAS I do have a question that I have not seen much discussion on. Do any of you donate blood due to high hct from certain compounds. I had elevated hct (red blood cells) from a cycle recently of primo and since learned that this can happen even with orals. Just curious what others know of this issue.
Thank you and I look forward to to more discussion and education in the future.
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EQ and Anadrol-50 are notorious for vast increases in RBC/HCT counts.
Pumps will last longer and at times can become even painful throughout the day and you will certainly "feel off" and without checking bloods you may not know why.
One of, if not the best way to resolve this issue is Donating Blood.
They love samples that have higher than normal RBC (bonus for them) and the donation will resolve allot of the symptoms felt due to high RBC/HCT (bonus for you) and of course this all goes towards helping those in need!
With ever action there is going to be an equal and opposite reaction within the bodies systems.
The only concern I've had is after they "get your awesome donation" they call you every week after the 8-12week previous donation time period.
I've gone annually but with some of the added combination of compounds I am looking into either bi-annual (twice a year) donation or perhaps even quarterly.
Check your blood work but since most won't/don't, at the very least keep an eye out on your BLOOD PRESSURE which can be done daily by purchasing an inexpensive BP unit device.
Just remember that doing something as simple as "standing" can elevate your BP reading by 10pts so therefore being a little "worried" etc. there may also be higher readings.
We have to also keep note that 120/80-140/90 is considered "average to slightly above normal" and of course anyone using supplementation is NOT on a normal scale.
Your body type/chemistry etc. may already be different but if you find yourself in the higher than normal readings for "average folks" do go to your doctor for a reading and ensure they use the "traditional" blood pressure cuff and stethoscope as it will be far more accurate then wrist cuff devices.
Also, make sure they use the correct SIZE of the blood pressure cuff too.
Always seek the advice of a professional ie: Medical Professional as most of us are simply giving personal experience and/or non-professional research information.
I donated blood when I was on EQ. That compound really jacks up the red cells
I just find it interesting that its not one of the things that people talk about but since I live in Higher elevation it may be more of a problem here. I have heard that about EQ and Test but not primo.
It is discussed some, just not a lot. It seems that its one of those factors that many people neglect, just as blood work is. I guess it makes sense because without blood work you cant know you have elevated hct. Ther are people who use exogenous hormones responsibly and those that just neglect their health all around. This can happen due to a lack of knowledge or simply because they are just careless.
Some people are more susceptible to hct getting elevated just as hair thinning or male pattern baldness.
From what I understand, just about anything that alters your hormonal balance, especially pushing levels into supraphysiologic levels, you risk various alterations in a homeostatic balance of MANY biological levels. Hct being one of those biomarkers. There are certain steroids that are most likely to increase or push a marker outside of "normal range." For instance, 19-nor's are most likely to increase prolactin levels, however, testosterone can too, its just not as likely.
The HCT thing is probably one of the more serious sides of some of these AAS though, so it is crazy no one really talks about it. My brother in law was on TRT and his Dr did not even disucss this risk with him. He ended up with 2 blood clots and still this Dr did not tell him to go donate blood. When your hct gets up above 50 you get blood that is like mud. Really scary because you can get blood clots, heart attack, or stroke. EQ is notorious for this but so is testosterone. The other issue is getting real gear that is what it is supposed to be. There are so many fakes out there. If you think your taking primo but it is something else like EQ you are at huge risk. And no matter what or where you get your gear there are no guarantees. I have run anavar a couple of times with excellent success and no sides. Primo as well, but the last stuff I got I am not sure it was really primo because the sides were different and the PIP was insane. Went and checked my bloods and HCT was way high and test levels through the roof. No wonder I was insanely strong and horny. So I immediately stopped that cycle and donated blood and labs are back in check again. I am thinking I got test prop instead of primo. Pretty scary and this was from a previously extrmely reliable source.
I compete in physique and want to run another cycle soon but that was pretty damn scary shit.
the days of test prop causing insane pip are pretty much gone ... primo if anything is likely to end up giving someone pip more often than not given how cyrstalized the raws are and brewing issues .... primo ace was never meant to be an injectible even though it is made as one.
Interesting. Well I have this primo ace and I am stuck with it, not gonna use it. My primo e seems to leave a little pip but nothing crazy. That ace is crazy stuff. But I still think it must be something else as it raised my test levels totally beyond what I can imagine being possible with anything but test.
Kodiac girl what is your opinion, can anything but test actually raise your test levels?