14 weeks for me personally is too long, the longer your on gear the longer & harder it is to recover fully from the shut down. considering it will take 2-3 weeks for the test to clear your system,

Your PCT should always be ready before start of the cycle, you can never be a 100% sure if your body will react the same way, you cant take chances with gyno, even if the risk is small you want to have PCT in hand.
Get your Nolva & your HCG asap to run before the end of cycle or if you can on cycle is good to.

You should also start thinking about a cycle bridge, something to assist you to keep as much of your gains as possible after cycle.

let us know you get on. some photos will be great.

Id go with BigThings approach. Run HCG through out the cycle. Makes pct recovery alot better as the hcg mimics the pituitaries signal to the testes to continue endogenous testosterone production. Alot of people say you dont need to, but why not if it makes recovery that much smoother. Plus its the standard TRT protocol, so if the medical field recommends it, im in. As for PCT, alot of people say run both clomid and nolva. If you look at studies for each of the drugs, the nolva is more effective on a mg per mg basis. dont take my word for it though, do you r own research. And lastly, you have to do what works best for you. Everyone will recommend something different, but you need to know your body and what works best. Personally my PCT (before i started trt) used to be five weeks nolva: 40/40/40/20/20

I know im new here,but i do and have done alot of reading. There is really no difference between test e and test c. One thing i have learned from friends and reading it you should be buying your pct first.
It seems to me to be way to tempting to start your cycle once you have your test or whatever else and say,ill get that after.
And after never comes in some case's.its not worth it!

I hope you're researching PCT protocol involving clomid and nolvadex, and the dosages and time needed. Also, read about why they are used in pct and how they work. Read up on the HPTA - hypothalmic pituitary testicular axis. That's what PCT works to restore and balance.
No aromatase inhibitor? Ok. Read up on exemestane and anastrazole. Study their similarities and differences. Pick one.
Ever get blood work done?
You haven't really run a cycle without PCT. You just injected steroids and made your body slowly recover. Be glad you recovered. Good luck getting this all sorted and I mean that sincerely.
Layman's terms? Nobody is going to spoonfeed. Get used to seeing and understanding a few big words and other jargon if you want to do things right.

On another note, I commend you for running just test and sust for your first 3...experiments...we'll call them. Glad you didn't jump on other compounds and complicate things even more. You have my respect.

I wouldn't go past 12 weeks on this cycle. Get some hcg and run 250mcg twice a week stop 3 days before pct. pct should start 3 weeks after last sust shot - 4 week standard pct:
Clomid 100/100/50/50 mg/day
Nolva 40/40/20/20 mg/day

Get bloods 4-6 weeks after pct

I'd cut the cycle short to 10 weeks, i find any longer and recovery is much more difficult

Have you used any hcg? Ideally you should be using it from week 3-4 onwards

Read up on Clomid/Nolvadex for PCT, Id wait 3-4 weeks from the last jab before starting

so im a newbie i have two test cycles

The first sentence already reveals everything....
and now he's on his third cycle and thinks it might be a good idea to get some info about proper PCT. It just hurts so much....

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens

Figure this shit out asap before you mess yourself up permanently...

To do it properly you would already have your PCT on hand.

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