posted Tue, 04/12/2016 - 14:39
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Thinking of adding some Winny at the end of my current cycle of test only. At 600ml per week.ive bloated out a good bit particulary around the waist,diet hasn't been too bad,could always be better I know before everyone jumps on that.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks
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Maybe you'd better try diet and cardio at first?
Winny is an out dated drug in my humble opinion.
using a compound to fix what is most likely a diet issue isnt the best idea on the planet
Like everyone else said, give us more info and it will be easier to help you bro. I'm a big fan of proviron and it seems like it would work for you well by reducing some bloat and freeing up some test. If it's your first cycle then leave winstrol for future.
It's my 3rd cycle,first two was test and dbol.
What is your goal with this cycle here? What's your bodyfat at?
Goal is to get bigger,stronger would some good solid gains,I know I'm bound to put on some fat too but as I said really blown out around the waist.im currently 95kg on a good day .i started at about 90 kg and I'm 8 weeks in.
What was your reasoning behind adding winny? What were you thinking it would do to help achieve those goals?
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Winni is a one trick pony mainly for contest prep. Nothing anywhere near resembling your goals. That is why I am wondering what made you think of using Winnie in the first place.
Ok thanks for the advice,it was recommended to me for cutting up at the end of a cycle.
I think next cycle I focus my goal differently from the start.
The thing is I'm tall a naturally long so when bf gets to low i look like shit
cutting up is dependent on diet. The drugs will impart their specific look once your diet has gotten you down to a low enough bodyfat so their effects can be seen. The drugs aren't what cut you up.
I absolutalely agree with Makwa. If your diet is not dialed in, no drug will change that. If you are bloated, winny won't change that. In my opinion it is a big misconception about winny being a drug that burns fat. It will not bloat you like test or deca, but it won't help you loose fat without adjusting diet and if you do work on a diet you can cut on test, no need to add another steroid. When you already have low bf, winny will improve your physique by giving you a nice, full, solid look without bloat like all dht derivatives so people you it pre contest, but to use it to get rid of bloat and cut does not make much sense in my opinion. It seems like you are fairly new at this so I would reccomend reading more snd efucating yourself. Do not fall for these false statements that this drug will help you burn fat snd this one will help you bulk. It's all about diet. Every one of these drugs put your body in an anabolic state, mesning you will be burning more cals and build more muscle but I hate to see when people switch between compounds without adjusting their diet bc " anavar will cut you up". No, it will not. You can gain more pounds on popular bulkers such as deca and dbol but the weight comes mostly from water retention and I know people that cut on nandrolones so really these drugs are very versatile and how they will work depends on the environment they are in, meaning diet.
Thanks a lot for explaining that properly I'll stick with the test on this cycle.
Just needed some feed back on the idea.
Good to get some solid indebt advice.
Thanks again
No problem bro, we've all been beginners at one point and there is a lot of confusing bro science. My best advice to you is to read and research every substance thoroughly before you put it in your body and go slow. Don't rush with adding drugs and building expensive and complicated cycles. You don't really need much to grow. Competitors are a different story but for a regular gym rat - I say keep it simple and safe
x2 with you and Makwa above.
DIET IS EVERYTHING.
What was your BF when you started? What do you mid-cycle bloods say your estro levels are at? Any sign is high estro? Could this just be bloat? What is your prior experience cycling?
Bf was 12% now about 15%.
Didn't get bloods done.
3rd cycle
First 2 was dbol and test.
No sign of estro although I have been getting a bit needy with the gf
Ok so suggest you get blood work done mate. Then you can take the guess work out of whether it is estro related or not. But other than that run through your diet and training. A 3% BF increase if you're truly bulking is reasonable diet dependent on diet of course.
Priors, how far in are you, which cycle is this, the bloat is to be expected to some degree...
8 weeks.
You using an ai?
Bloat could be from you needing to increase your ai.
No not using any ai.
No not using any ai.