+ 6 WHY DO PEOPLE THINK STEROIDS ARE A MIRACLE DRUG
I just don't understand why some of these kids on this site just continue no matter what advice they are given to do things they are told not to from vets!
Do you really think steroids are going to make you magically grow without a good diet and starting a million compounds at once your in for a rude awakening when it all comes crashing down because it will!!!
Listen to the damn advice when you are told not to run tren at a young age or certain compounds all at once it can severly fuck you up for life your playing with the hormones you only get once they can't make new ones I can run test with a good diet and I guarantee you running three or 4 compounds aren't going to put on the "good" weight I do you might look big for a few months but the depression after of losing it all is gonna suck and mess with your head slow down if you can't grow on test your not ready to be doing steroids IMO bc your diet probably sucks!
Steroids can make you feel like a king but if done wrong I promise you will be at a all time low after and your going to prolly continue to chase that muscle and then boom the doctor breaks the news to you that your never gonna have kids lets see how you feel then bc I guarantee there's guys that wish they could have done it different and that's why their helping you LISTEN to them!
Who the hell that's a vet on here had a site like this when they were in their 20s that's right no one i bet bc I didn't steroids are no joke take it slow and you will get their some people will say its all "bro science" I know guys that can run all these compounds at once and have no problem it's all about your body everyone is different research research and research more and when your vikes age still looking good then you can show it off!!
Stop being hard headed young ones and the pussy will come because I know that's all you think about at a young age when your thing doesn't work at 25 you will be here crying for help so go slow and make no mistakes! AKA do your research that does not include typing pro cycles into google especially if you don't even know what a basic A.I. Or anti-estrogen is yet or saying your gonna blast and cruise like these other guys when you don't even have more than a cycle under your belt yet
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Steroids are basically a +1 for 90% of the people who use them.
If you look so-so you get a +1 to look average
If you look average you get a +1 to look good
If you look good you get a +1 to look great
If you look great you get a +1 to look exceptional
If you look exceptional you get a +1 to compete at the top amateurs and maybe turn pro.
Of course you can use a good diet, smart training and recovery program and other factors to add a couple of more +1s to your starting base. But steroids themselves will not do that for you.
This of course excludes amazing wonders like Levrone, Vince Taylor, Haney, etc.. that are genetically predisposed to have an incredible response to chemical aid. Some like these are chemical responders, some people like Labrada, Gaspari, Branch, Kai, are predisposed to be highly responsive to training stimulus, while the best like Coleman, Yates, Heath, are a combination of both.
HardBodEricEarlier some 19-20 yr old, said "Just one cycle of winstrol, i want to get a 6 pack in 6 weeks and then i will quit steroids" He was 5'8" 205 he says, So yea it IS SAD that people have such wrong ideas of what these compounds are for and what they do. I think Baseball Media had something to do with it.
AnonDeca was a miracle to my cousin. He was prescribed deca because he was wasting away on dialysis. He eventually died from kidney failure but the deca was godsend for him.
That's terrible. Sorry for your loss brother
Greekmuscle1Sorry for your loss brother!
this is true...! the collective knowledge of this site is truly remarkable. 20 years ago all guys had to go by was what dudes at the gym said.
Greekmuscle1The advice I took from a guy at the gym back then left me with a worm wiggle dick since then I've upgraded to porn status and still going
Good post bro...... I see you attracted the village idiot down below (e92) lmfao.... that prick turned up on one of my diet posts some time back with the same attitude... glad im not the kid in the gym that's taking his fkn brain dead advice... oh well, just work around him bro hes just another fkn failure in my eyes.
Greekmuscle1Haha vike I don't get it but remember those comp pics you just posted are because you don't eat at all just run gear year round lol! Sometimes I dunno how you guys hold back on these young and dumb ones
RustyhookerBecause on the net you can buy anything NOW NOW NOW!!! Spoiled lil spankers. Spank em and send em home to momma!
My first run was after YEARS of researching. Long after I'd put in 15yrs of luving and breathing nothing but weights. At 28 and went simple. Back in the day when everything was human/vet grade. Only worry ya had was how to do it right. Ai? Pct? Sheeeit. We had good ol dan duchain and Llewellyn's first writings advice. ¤rolls eyes¤
Basically, we grew up in the DARK. Reading and trying it as lab rats. I'm 42 now and still NOT on TRT. Why? Keep It Simple Stupid--KISS. Base level low test will make you grow only if your food/gym are on. Or ya lise it and think bigger is better...then you lose that too.
What were you sayin again.......???
I remember when the recommended pct was a 5000iu shot of hcg.Boom,your all better now!
RustyhookerHigh five brother! Handfull of either clom or nolva....not both. One shot and you're nearly Arnold! Isn't it friggin amazing how nice it is to recover correct now? Haha
They think this because everyone seems to want instant gratification these days. Patience, consistency and determination are becoming more rare every day. In place of these qualities we have obese people wheeling around on their scooters going through the BK drive thru 3 times per day while collecting government subsidies.
Sorry, I got a little off topic there but Im at work and I literally just saw one of those mush piles roll through a BK drive thru, hilarious yet infuriating at the same time. End of rant.
Annnddd,what were you doing at BK!lol
lol, fixing the fire hydrant out front, not slamming back whoppers!
I see it all the time in my gym.. some one too young gets on it.. gets big.. loses it all within a couple of months, gets on it again, loses it all again. It's like a yo yo effect.. NO IDEA how to eat or train.
Greekmuscle1Absolutely that's why they have this site there's guys on here now that are running compounds that they for damn sure aren't ready for but think they are because they see other guys that are big doing it
Most people think they're eating good,just as I did.I've been eating 5-6 meals for quite some time.My last blast,a compound I was using increased my appetite substantially.I packed on 28 pounds in 8 weeks(ended up being about 50% gain from fat and water).I was like damn,I must be eating 4000 calories a day.I sat down and figured out my caloric intake.I was barely hitting 2500 calories.I couldn't believe it was that low.I went and figured out my calories before my appetite increased.It was below 2000 calories a day.My metabolism was tanked.I added protein shakes and meal replacement shakes to help get my calories up.I'm at a little over 3000 calories a day now.Just because it seems like your eating all day,doesn't mean your getting enough calories.
At least you were honest with yourself and you'll be better off in the long run because of it.
And yeah, a lot of people say the same thing. Everyone claims they eat 4500+ cals daily. Then you ask them to break down macros and either they can't, or it's not adding up. Per 1 gram the macros are 4 cal protein, 4 cal carb, 9 cal fat...yet when added up some people overestimate by 1000 or more daily
Greekmuscle1Anybody can gain mass on steroids there's a difference between gaining 20 pounds and keeping 15 and looking like a superhero or gaining 20 pounds looking like a bloated balloon and either turning to a fat ass or a crackhead bc there diet sucks all I'm saying is take it slow you got years ahead of you learn and grow
e92"Do you really think steroids are going to make you magically grow without a good diet"
yes lol. if you deny that you are retarded.
obviously growth wont be optimal, but you will grow much faster than natural
Such a cute comment! Pass me a note in study hall and we can plan our next cycle to get HUGE bro and get some pussy. Grow up or get off this site. BY THE WAY, I'VE NEVER BAD MOUTHED OR MADE A SHITTY COMMENT TO ANYONE ON HERE. YOU'RE MY ONLY EXCEPTION BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN A MORE CHILDISH POST. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CYCLE. WHEN YOU CANT GET IT UP FOR YOUR GIRL IN 2 YEARS SEND ME A PM. I'LL HELP YOU OUT ALL YOU WANT LMFAO!!
Steroids might increase nitrogen synthesize and nutrient repartitioning etc etc but without a diet that is spot on you're unlikely to keep anything you've gained. Or you'll bloat up.
Retarded?? Post supporting evidence.
Steroids without diet and exercise is like using botox. Muscle cells swell, giving the illusion of growth.
But without diet and exercise, once the "stimulant" is removed the swelling goes away -NO GROWTH.
Without exercise there is no stimulus for the muscle to repair and grow -Steroids don't stimulate muscle.
Without diet there is no fuel to grow. -Steroids can not fuel growth.
Steroids will help you maximize the synergy, and potential for growth created by DIET and EXERCISE.
Ha, this statement is pretty retarded. Sure have seen some kids at my gym with shit physiques that pump gear, don't eat worth a damn and train like pussies. But sure dude, everyone else is retarded. I don't give 2 shits what anyone else does, I'll just sit back with a smug look and watch these kids crash and burn.
Greekmuscle1Your so right the funny thing is i know guys like that to and their the first ones to be like dude how much stuff you
On I pay no attention to anything like that anymore it used to bother me now I laugh it off and go about my workout
Exactly!! I was helping this kid at my gym because he was clueless. Diet and training sucked, but the only questions he asked were gear related. He wants to compete and figures drugs will overrule everything else. Tried to talk sense to him and help with the other aspects, but it was a lost cause.
Agreeded, but a person that never ligted ( or only a couple years under their belt) before does a cycle they will gain some mass but most likely not keep it because they don't have the diet and training diclipine to maintain the gains, not to mention the health risks the could occur if you just jump into a cycle withouth having a solid foundation or even worse destroying your natural hormone system and not be able gain anything without the use of drugs. The list goes on and on, we are so fortunate here to have vets to use for their knowledge and wisdom.
Greekmuscle1Nice post!
Greekmuscle1Your a poster child for what kids shouldn't do and you won't last long! Take everyone's advice that's trying to help you or don't I just saw your post about estro and I promise you will be seeking help and still getting bitched at by your parents don't insult veteran intelligence on this site you got people willing to help you but you seem to think
Everything is irrelevant wake up bro there's a reason their asking you seem to be hiding your stats because your sucking info out of people you shouldn't be
The problem is we are a society of instant gratification and more is better. I've read a lot of posts where people are determined as hell to get "swole" by putting xyz into their body.
I think some if these kids and beginners spend more cash on gear than food. Out of blind ambition they lose sight of what the real deal is. My food bill is outrageous, gear cost is moderate.
It's a dangerous mindset, and I completely agree. With vets on the boards, there's no reason for stupid mistakes. The problem is that if someone wants to do something bad enough, they'll do it regardless. Don't get me wrong, this is a steroid forum so obviously there will be advanced level protocols thrown about. But some of the people tossing them about, you really have to question if they have the other aspects down. Oh well, to each their own. I'm comfortable with what I put into my body and my methods.
Greekmuscle1Agreed!
Buildbigger86READ THIS. Explains alot on this topic
http://www.eroids.com/forum/sports-talk/other-sports/lance-armstrong-the...
X2! A person 20-25 years old can expect to put on 5-15lbs of muscle a year when they are training naturally and have have a perfect diet. Yes it sounds slow, THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS! It's not just you that grows that slow its everyone ( of course there are always a couple exceptions). Be a responsible man and work hard and honest for your gains and create a strong physique and foundation for when it's your time to use AAS.
-happy growing!
Buildbigger86FR SENT
Buildbigger86Because the are uneducated on the the real understanding of what AAS'S really are.
I am getting tired but will update this post tomorrow. Great post M plus 1