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I, for one, live by the code of trust no-one especially when it comes to online.You can never know who exactly it is sitting on the other side of the net. With the laws of this country being what they are and the ever increasing difficulty of getting packs through customs we are now left with very little choice but to " trust " our fellow members and their opinions on UG gear and the labs that produce them. But what happens when UGLs see this and use it to their advantage? When they use this "trust" by sending GREAT gear to the members whose opinion we know to be truthful and honest, only to gain access and with every intention on scamming ALL of us in some way.. I have seen this widespread throughout many differnet boards where a new source will announce itself and offers to send " trusted vets " free gear to try and give reviews so that all other members know just how good their gear is and how you can go ahead and trust to send your hard earned money.. The new source sends these trusted vets, who usually have been picked by the community as the go-to guys for testing, their best, top quality gear and get rave reviews about how great it is.. They get flooded with new orders,some from long time members, but most by the noobs who sit on the sidelines and wait to get the green light from the seniors that it is legit. We expect a few bumps knowing that it is not Walmart and takes time.Next thing we hear is the source apologizing for late packs and promising they will get it all worked out and will even send extras for the inconvenience. .. Orders are flying in, people keep sending their money because hey , the gear was tried and tested and was g2g ,they are even sending extra.Two months and hundreds of orders later packs are still missing, along with the source who stopped posting and answering emails, and the ones that have landed are turning out to be greatly underdosed if not completely bunk and the vets who were only looking out for us are left feeling used and in some cases are now unwilling to help for fear of having their hard earned reputation tainted by some scammer just looking to rip people off. That is why i am happy to have found a place,here in this community, where EVERYONE has a say and a chance to give their own review. Good ,bad or indifferent it doesn't matter. Thanks everyone for taking the time to read this and also for taking the time to help others by posting and giving reviews. I, for one, appreciate it...

Lilbear's picture

When it comes down to it, it's about a past experience with XYZ product. Not future outcome.

I been in the game for a while. Have I bought trash yes...... Have I come across good sources most def......

When you come across a good product with labs to back it up. Buy up as much as you can afford. That's a peace of advice you will learn and hopefully use. Sometimes good source don't last

Dickkhead's picture

A lot of labs have been in business a long long time. They would not remain in business if they were scamming or selectively scamming their customers.

Nitti's picture

Be careful which direction you take this. That's to whoever bumped it

never2big39's picture

just saying thanks to the guys that post reviews and give honest feedback.. i get what you are saying though..

Nitti's picture

You're fine. Just an iffy topic in this section. Someone always comes in dropping source names.

never2big39's picture

lately it seems more and more labs are turning scammers and being exposed.. its making it hard for the new up and coming sources to gain trust from people.. thats why boards like this are so important and why more people need to post reviews to let others know which ones are good and which are just straight scams

eastcoastmuscle's picture

unfortunately these days, bloods or mass spec testing has to be figured in with the cost of your gear if your using multiple compounds or if you dont know the feel of what your using and you want to be certain. If your on a test only cycle , it should be pretty apparent relatively soon into your cycle if you have legit gear.

TooLate4Me's picture

agreed..and taking that into account you really are not saving any money by going with an UGL over pharma grade.. You probably end up spending more after all the testing and dose adjustments are factored in. A big concern of mine lately has been what it is that these raws are being "cut" with. I have seen so many MS test come back with unkown impurities that it gets a little scary to think you are injecting these "unknowns" into your body.. I do agree that research and time are our best weapons.. Take the time to search for test results and read the reviews of others who have tried the gear. WE are all we have and need to stick together and make sure we voice our opinions to let the next guy who is looking to order know exactly what we think..

eastcoastmuscle's picture

I remember a few years back , reading a report on a mass spec someone did and they found cancer causing ingredients in the gear. Not sure exactly what it was but they found traces of these elements or heavy metals when they ran their test. It was ran on a supplier that sells here. Whether it was true and accurate or a smear , I don't know but scary either way.

TooLate4Me's picture

exactly..i was just reading a thread on another board pertaining to mass spec tests and the test showed unknown contaminates and from what it said , they would need to have something to compare the found contaminates against in order to identify it..Now i dont know much about these tests or how to read them but how would yoy even know where to start looking for contaminates to identify them with.. In a bath tub or toilet ? Maybe a stove top might have the sort of substance you would need to look at first.. i dont know but like you said.,.SCARY!!

iflexit_1's picture

Yes...very valid points. A lot of people have bashed CENSORED on this website, and I can only speak from my personal experience. I have used CENSORED exclusively for the last 4 years...and have had nothing but premier service and top quality gear!!! Communication has been outstanding, and T/A's have been acceptable. My two cents!!!

iflexit_1's picture

Sorry bro...my bad.

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WINNING's picture

Alot of valid points in this post, however it takes some digging and research to find quality. I started off by sending a couple friend requests to certain members that looked legit and sounded like they knew their stuff. Unfortunately, you will get more in a pm, than anywhere else. Its really not hard to find decent gear, take a peek around the picture section, you will see who is on point Or not! ;)

DaveO100's picture

I think you answered some of your own questions there bro. My advice would be to use a source that has been around for a while and is not some new pop up source on the net. You can tell the guys that get to be advertising on the boards and run these crazy promos and like you said they give the vets the good gear and let them post good reviews, only to get flooded with orders and then the poor quality gears starts to get circulated once the production can't keep up with the demand. if I were you i would order from a source that has been around for a while.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Go Pharma and you won't have to worry about it.

2500hd's picture

Yes if it's straight from the pharmacy

TooLate4Me's picture

i agree but i have read that even that has been faked lately.. you just dont know anymore.. Its so hard for the new guy coming in looking for a source.. There are so many boards and most of them paid sponsor boards that are protected by the admin that these young guys with only 1 or 2 cycles under their belt are such easy targets. they are so eager to get gear that they will trust anyone who knows the right things to say..

ButtHurty's picture

My guy is like ordering from Amazon. Probably better customer service.

TooLate4Me's picture

Does he take PayPal? LOL..

ButtHurty's picture

LOL I wish

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