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I would like to inform the enthusiast reading this that I will be working with an IFBB Coach and obviously can't even hint about who I'm speaking of, and it has to be left at that. I'm paying extreme amounts of money, because I have it, to see what the man who trains certain freak individuals will have me do according to my experience with AAS. We are consulting right now and going over everything. I can tell you, the first thing hes having me do is drop my bodyfat into the single digits around 8% or so. Take it easy on the calories and overload my body with green leafy vegetables and TONS of water w/lemon. I also won't be getting my gear from him, because I can't afford that as you can all imagine. So he recommended a few sources, 1 that happens to be on here which was surprising.
If you guys are interested in what hes going to be having me do with my regiment and meal plan throughout the course of the cycle, I would say shoot me a PM. Or if theres somewhere I should be logging this elsewhere, please point me in the right direction.
Purpose of this thread is to take you through my experience with this very well known guru that anyone who bodybuilds knows about with you not having to pay. I can tell you that I did swear under oath that I wouldn't disclose any of the information being paid for. But I haven't disclosed any information about anyone, so I think were in the clear. I would like you guys to see how someone who knows my whole AAS experience formulates my next cycle or cycles. I would like the experienced guys or anyone who has experience with what I'll be doing to really put in their input and educate because I'm all ears. And I will bring up certain things you guys say to my trainer. For anyone that gives a damn.
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I seen your stats that you are an oly lifter but wanting to get as big as you can? are you wanting to compete as a body builder or just see what your body can do?
No. I OLY lifted when I came off gear for several reasons. I had an extremely strong overhead press and squat/deadlift after going back and forth with gear and bodybuilding for 5 years or so. Those exercises translated over to the OLY movements pretty well. So when I got off gear, I decided I would pursue a sport that doesnt require the use of AAS to progress. OLY lifting isnt about size, its about strength. It also requires the utmost flexibility to be able to perform the movements. I'm currently at a 275 clean and jerk and a 205 snatch. I've done split jerks with 285 off the blocks for singles. Its fun and challenging. Juice doesnt really have its place in OLY lifting for the average enthusiast. You can get strong as bones without it. Juice just opens the door to new size that you couldnt get without it.
I oly lift when I'm "off" because it helps re train the bodies biomechanics and really works the joint to its full degree. Doing a squat and an overhead squat with arms overhead is completely different. I dont compete as a bodybuilder or oly lifter, just the enthusiast.
Hey my man, first welcome. Second, if you're offering a biz prop (paid in exchange for service) then I have to ask you do it offline. Don't use the pm system to sell anything. You may tell whoever will listen all about your credentials and what your intentions are, but I can't let you solicit the eroids members for a paid service. You may very well be who you say. I don't know. If so, I respect what you do and all newbs get my respect simply because you are a man (or woman) and you deserve it until you show otherwise. But please don't try and hustle our members. I will take personal offense to this. Other than that, if it isn't your motive , good luck and enjoy the site.
Thank you for the welcome. Not doing a business prop which is why I didnt want to put that information in my logs. But regarding the gains I get, I would like to be able to reference people as to what gear I was using. I'm definitely not soliciting for any kind of paid services and if you'd like to confirm that with any one on my friends list please do. Im just here to share my experience, unless everyone here already knows everything which is what I'm really thinking. I figured everyone can learn, so why not include you all in my journey and hear what you have to say about what my trainer is going to have me do. I'm not selling anything to anyone.
I'm trying to utilize this forum and the veteran members primarily that can pick things out with what I am doing that may not necessarily be "smart" in terms of health down the road. I just like to hear everyones input. You can't honestly say one man knows it all, so just because I'm hiring a trainer doesnt mean I can't ask him questions. So things I'm unclear about that one of you that has a little more experience might catch, you can bring that up to me and I would throw that by him. Thats all I'm looking for here with this. Thats the only reason I created an account.
Thanks to everyone who has friend requested me. Welcome along.
You are all the way up to two!
Thats 2 more than before. Does it bother you that I'm getting friend requests. A member with that much karma pointing out what everyone already knows. Im sorry if this post bothered you but you definitely dont have to be a part of it if you don't like. But I dont need the negativity of everything your already not agreeing with or your shit talking about people friend requesting me. It is what it is man. Your following my thread now. Thank you
You have stated you want to communicate through PM. Fine, let it be so. Getting an attitude with respected members here wont gain you any friends. You're new here and this post is fishy as hell. Best thing you can do is let it go. It's thin ice around here for know-it-all new guys. Communicate through PM, let the rest go.
Right so justify the double standard to a newbie. I didnt read that in the rules. Your defending his getting an attitude and pointing out the obvious the me. His response had no place in this thread. It had nothing to do with anything. And it certainly wasn't a response I would credit to someone with that much karma. Thank you for standing up for him and enforcing the double standard. It is ok for any member with more than 100 karma to be disrespectful to new members. Noted.
I think you need to try decaff. You are getting your feelings hurt because we haven't all jumped to help you or to be helped by you. I think you took Pale's comment a little bit too personally. I took it as a joke. Of course all these are my opinions and observations. I am simply encouraging you to follow your own suggestion and communicate through PM. Stop defending yourself and lose the attitude.
I dont think in any way he meant that as a joke, but I'm glad you took it as one. Im giving out free information that people pay money to have and here we are having a debate about hurting peoples feelings. Its simple, just like any other thread. If your not responding to the thread or something regarding the thread, your just taking up space filling it with non useful information. Such as a reminder of how many friends I have. I'm communicating very well through PM with several people. I encourage you to stay off this thread if you have nothing useful or positive to say. Im not here to listen to peoples jokes, I'm here to learn and continue my education in this field. So I'm hoping I'm on a forum with adults who can give that knowledge and not kids who get upset that their is a new member.
I mean seriously, I havent even started this log and look at how many upset members their are that I'm posting this lol? Just be happy for once guys, life is good. I cant even wrap my mind around all the negativity in this thread. Such a shame.
Ok bro, you seem to know everything already.
Handle your business as you see fit. Good night.
Clearly you and your jokster buddies have it figured out, otherwise you wouldnt be talking all this nonsense that has nothing to do with what I posted. You havent even seen what I'm going to be doing and your already sure its not the right way. I mean karma only counts for so much. Definitely not IQ. I hope that next time you post a comment its something positive or something I can learn. I didnt come on here to debate about off topic subjects not relevant to the thread. Like I've said already a couple times, Im here to share my experience. If me sharing upsets you, I don't know what to tell you other than give the juice a break. I was starting to get like that when I was on a lot. Just getting pissed off about nothing. And then I realized how big of an idiot I looked like. I dont know what it is about this thread that upsets so many of you, but I'm just here to share my experience. It is what it is
Yes, you're clearly the brains here. Sorry for clogging up your thread. Best of luck to you. Good night.
No like pointed out numerous times in every other comment, I'm here to share my experience. No reason for you to be upset. Your clogging up the thread man. If you have a personal vendetta against people who hire trainers, talk to a penpal or therapist about it. I really dont know what to tell you. Nothing you say is pertaining to the thread.
I am sure I am not the only BB on here that also has a pro coach and pro trainer like what you are describing you have got for yourself. Yeah, they charge a lot. LOL I'm not about to give them up but I think there are quite a few folk on here that know as much as they do. In any case, my only purpose for being here is to help people out with mostly basic stuff cause I get a lot of satisfaction in doing that - maybe keeping a few guys safe who would otherwise do stupid stuff. The stuff I learn that I pay for I just incorporate where appropriate in the advice I give here so maybe it just adds a little to our huge existing archive of knowledge. Bro, in the end, I agree with some of the guys below - if u are paying someone to do your chemicals for you that u truly believe is an expert - I wouldn't second guess it here. BTW, most big time industry consultants have their own big egos and it would very much surprise me if u start second guessing him based on feedback u get here that it will be well received. And finally,
Bro, the IFBB doesn't have a short list of secret labs that make chemicals just for the pros. Guys at the professional level of the sport shop at the same places we mortals do and the worlds biggest and best labs are on this site. I seriously doubt if there's some great lab somewhere that is not listed here. Not if the lab wants publicity and the business that comes with good reviews.
I wouldn't be second guessing, but I would also like to keep my health in line. With you guys knowing my past experience and having seen what he has me do, you guys might see something that looks off that I don't know about because Im not as educated. Im not asking you guys to pick apart what he has me do and alter it. Im definitely going to be following what he says. I also want to be able to give him feedback on things. So this post would be more for the experienced AAS user, because I'll be undergoing some different ways of cycling that I've never done in the past.
And thats great to know about the sources. I've never ordered online, always got it from a buddy who supposedly made it. All the top sources look so great, you really don't know where to choose from. But Im going to go with the line that my trainer threw out there and use all of their products. It will be nice to try a new product line.
Well, welcome to eroids first. My thought on this (if this is even real) is, you hired this coach/trainer, obviously according to you he is world famous. Why in the world would you be second guessing him here?He is your coach.. You should probably consider that before going any further here.
Well I've followed your forum for awhile with my buddy on his account. I see how everyone interacts here. There is not a mutual respect and people who come here uneducated or with other ways than what people here prescribe, they get hit on pretty hard. Like I said, the purpose of this is so you all can see how he has me doing things. I have no idea what I'll be doing, but I'm thinking its gonna be something different than the traditional 12 week or 16 week bulker. Im not second guessing him, I would just like to HEAR if he is having me do something and one of you VETS don't agree. I said I would bring it up to him. Im here to learn, not do "follow" blindly. I hope you guys mind.
I mean if you guys truly dont care to follow or hear what he has me doing, I won't log anything. But to anyone reading this, if your interested, PM me and I'll keep you on what he has me doing. Ill be posting pictures of what I order. Getting bloods. And doing bi-weekly weigh ins.
In all honesty man there are a handful of guys here who are probably just as knowledgeable as this world famous "coach" that your shoveling money to just because you have it as you said. And just because someone comes here uneducated doesn't mean he gets the axe. Usually when guys get flamed its for being an ass when someone is more than willing to help with just basic knowledge towards aas/training.
This whole post just seems off
Exactly, a handful of guys who are just as knowledgeable. Just what I'm looking for. But these hand full of guys arent training any PROS. So I guess you can say I just feel a little better inside already knowing most of his clients are famous. So I'd say thats pretty interesting. But hey if your at the next level or you know it all, lay it out now so I can stop paying this other guy. The fact that I've been on here for not even a day and I have 2 people try to persuade me not to log my experience with a very reputable guru in the industry just seems off.
So I'll repeat it again, I'll be doing my own logging of it. I wont be posting it on here. Ill keep everyone in the loop who PM's me with what my trainer is having me do. Im not losing anything by not telling you guys. I was just looking for a couple more eyes to watch over and tell me what they think. The fact that I come here asking for a second opinion and you guys are turning me away seems off? Come on now.
Im not turning you away but if you really want that other handful of guys to give their opinions or maybe help you along the way a bit why hide it through pm. Put it on an open forum....cycle logs, training, diet, stats that way everyone can see it.
That comment tells me you want to be spoon fed. Im with pale on this one, if your already paying this "guru" why second guess him here?
Well I wouldn't be hiding it, thats the whole purpose of this thread. I was going to create a cycle log, my training log and diet. But like you and pale said, why second guess him. So by sharing my experience in an "open forum" like I'm doing, I'm second guessing my trainer by including you along on my journey. Like I said, I'm not losing anything by not telling you.
So we'll keep this between myself and whoever sends me a PM. Cheers