posted Tue, 10/20/2015 - 10:05
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Ok folks MR X as a few cycles under his belt.. its fall so he wants to run a bulker, MR X is not afraid of adding a little extra fat. I will list his stats and AAS he has on hand also those will be the ones he has run before. MR X is very gyno prone as well keep that in mind and also has to be on medication for his temper and has sleep issues . MR X is your average guy here just looking to add size does not compete in any strength sports or bodybuilding.
Test E
Sust
Test prop
decca
NPP
Equipoise
Tren E
DBOL
Anadrol
aromasin
caber
6,4
275 pounds
14% BF
I don't want you to focus this time on a diet, just focus on building a cycle a posting it. lets see if you can put together a bulk cycle with the information that you have about him personally
AFTER EVERYONE PUTS UP A CYCLE THEN WE WILL GO BACK THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DID RIGHT AND WRONG AND WHAT NEEDS CHANGED . AND AGAIN OTHER GUYS FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN AND HELP ME
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If Mr x is on a prescription for temper issues then he best stay away from any and all aas. Aas seems to amplify things. Good and bad. Just my two cents.
I'm not gonna give him any cycle advice because he needs to completely fill out his stats. Mr X could be under age so shame on everyone who has given advice already ;)
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^high five
Thank you sir. I'm surprised you didn't catch it earlier.
I'd say kiss...keep it simple stupid. Not sure how Mr.X is with injections. Bulking so, .5cc of sustanon ed. Keep his blood levels as stable as possible as he has mood issues. Caber being a dopamine agonist theres that sense of "feel good" when used. Provides a level of contentment and has anti depressant effects. I know when I've used it things didn't "bother" me as much and I was "light" feeling. So maybe since Mr.X has a temper .25mg-.5mgs a week to help in keeping MrX a happy guy. So .5mg sus ed, .25-.5mg caber twice a week. Aromasin there as needed...EDIT:only because MrX is hypothetical I play this game. IRL I dont give any advice on gear, only lifting. I know what works with me after trial and error. If MrX were real I'd manipulate his anger issues onto lifting. Which in turn might help with his anger issues after beating it outta him under the weights
Does Mr X have bail money? What about.blood pressure? Mr X should not cycle with anger issues and because of anger has borderline hypertension which will get worse with any test or oral over 500 or over 50mg. Maybe Mr X should take anger management classes then use what he learns to keep his bp at bay, then maybe do a 500 test run for 8 weeks all while monitoring his bp. Once he tames his demons maybe he can do a better cycle that wont cause a heart attack. Mr X has sleep issues and takes bp meds, Do we honestly tell him its a good idea to cycle? I got real deep here because it could be a death sentemce for.poor Mr X.
Very well done Irishmac +2 there was a couple right answers I was looking for rusty hit one you hit one several others a very close hitting the gym now but I will be back on lster
Keep these going Gym, These are very beneficial for the new guys and some vets. Youbdescribe a lot of what we see on a weekly basis and people should ask these questions. Spot on Bro.
X2 these are fun. I'm sure a bunch of guys who don't post are reading and learning a lot too
RustyhookerAgree! Great teaching tools
We need to a couple times a week get together pic a topic and several of us work it and help the new guys or anyone ..
I'm down for that, send me a PM and we can bounce a few ideas out there.
RustyhookerAgree!
Average guy that's gyno prone and temper problems...Keep it simple IMO.
Test E 750 mgs for 12 weeks
Test Prop 100-150 mg EOD first 4 weeks
Test Prop 100-150 mg EOD week 12-15
PCT Starts 4 days after last Prop injection.
Aromasin dose decided after bloods after week 5. 12.5 or 6.25 mg EOD depending on his history with aromasin
IMO Average guy not competing in anything has no reason to add multiple compounds especially since he has gyno/temper/sleep issues. Dosing could be higher depending on his "few cycles" history.
Test, test, test for me. Average guy priority should be to feel good with minimal risk or bad side effects. Test is best medicine.
At 275 14% dude is a monster so he's going to need a bit more than most. Tren is out due to the problems listed as well as high test doses, drol, and dbol.
So this leaves us working with sust deca and eq. No mention of being prone to prolactin sides. Basically describes a bigger me lol. What I personally would do since I'm very gyno prone and have tried this and know it works:
1-16 sust 250mg
1-4 NPP kicker 150 EOD
1-15 deca 600mg
1-16 EQ 800mg with 1600mg frontload
Caber .5mg 2x a week to combat any deca problems
Aromasin 12.5mg a day adjust as needed
Re read his post and think of why Mr X would drop dead or have bad headaches and loss of breath walking.
I never saw any mention of blood pressure issues? Just anger and I get really mellow on trt test and high deca and eq. Especially with caber thrown in. Granted I did miss that there was no age but the massive weight threw me off there. Assuming only someone that's been juicing for a long time could put that on lol
Test e 400 mg
EQ 1g
Weekly
AI as needed. Dictated by bloods.
read my post to KH
Got it.
MightyMatt812Let's see you said few cycles under his belt
But I don't know exactly so I'll keep it simple I would just run test e and deca and maybe drol it would go something like this
Wk 1-16 test e 750
Wk 1-14 deca 450
Drol 50mg 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for first 8 weeks
Week 3 I would probably start ai12.5 eod because he is gyno prone and wk 4 would get first blood just to check and adjust and every 4 weeks after to stay on top .5 mg wk caber I would probably start wk 6 just to for precaution if he can control the estro and bloat I believe it would be a good easy bulk cycle for him but he must get bloods so he can control the gyno
Sus1-15 @800
Npp 1-6 @400
I would just keep the caber and aro close cause of gyno. Gyno shouldn't be as bad with npp, but nothing puts on a little extra size besides nandrlone, and I hate orals so I would suggest it!
why would you run npp a short ester instead of decca a long ester ?
RustyhookerGyro prone. Sounds like a Lil test eq cycle then. Since equipment is his new drug, I'll give a solid simple cycle for gyro prone folks.
1-20 test enanthate at 350.
1-18 eq 750
22 pct starts
That's it. Nothing fancy but should easily get 12 pounds added if he's hardcore in gym. If he's run many cycles prior and beyond maxed out 6 pounds is a great cycle. Boost appetite too.
Bloods week 5 to see how much Ai needed. Alex probably better choice with test that low. Donate blood bout week 11. Monitor bp. Hydrate well. If he's run eq as a prior then I would a had var last 6 weeks.
He doesn't have any EQ though!
RustyhookerMisread as his priors. You read the part of he's gyro prone?
I'm gyro prone myself, them tasty little greek pitas, I eat 3 at a time.
why such a low dose on test e?
RustyhookerGyro prone. Ran it above a trt dose (100 mg/week) for good set drive but not enough to cause flares. I've run test low and high depending on end goal and foods. I've run eq solo, but not advisable to newbs. Folks that must run let room on the most basic test cycles will have better cycle with drugs they can manipulate
Interesting right there.. Going to wait till others throw stuff up
RustyhookerGetting everyone to post gives the op many decisions or tweaks.