-12 This ones for all the young guys and newbies - neg me if you want im just speaking open!
Hey so I thought Id post this for everyone young like me 19-25.
The reason I am posting this is because it seems everytime we post on here we get hit with the too young or the no experience or not training long enough or w.e it is.
First I will speak for myself, I am 22 years old I have been training since I was 14 years old. I never touched a thing until 18 and the only reason I did was because it kept being pushed on me and I gave in.. and unfortunately it was a dumb choice. I didnt know better and I took d bol for 12 weeks. after this I never touched roids again until about 3 months ago. I am cetified trainer as well as in college for fitness and training. I know my shit and if you knew me you would know I am a freak when it comes to working out, my parents my friends will tell you I am obsessed but I am just vey very dedicated. people were making me take days off I hated taking one day off. I give my heart to this and I want to be a fitness model in the future and I will do it with every shed of blood tears and sweat I have.
So when you wanna talk about me taking the easy way out, who the fuck are you to judge me we are on a steroid forum!!? Some even most just take steroids to be big to be strong to w.e I do it because its my dreams and passion to be on top some day.
So when I ask a question, please give me the answer dont speak to me about some shit that has nothing to do with my question.
To all you young guys, we all have our reasons for being there and like me I hope they are good ones.
I may get negged fo this or given a speech but honestly thats okay I am speaking my mind and I think even tho we are the babies of the forum we dont deserve to be treated like em..
no before I sound like a total asshole I also want to say some of you have given me great responses and I appreciate you all for that this place has truly helped me in so many ways. especially FAST48 he is an amazing aid
Also listen us young guys understand you care and know whats up bette than us but if we are on this forum and already have gear and already made our minds then you dont need to tell us we are ready to roll, so just give us the answers we desperately need because only YOU have the answers we need.!
no disrespect to eroids I love this place! thanks for reading and sory if I offended
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Just being nice brother
zewiTo be honest I think we have been very nice, very nice in fact. With the info you bring to the table and others. I’m quite surprised, that they don’t realize the amount of info they are receiving. (more than likely cause they don’t research and think they have it all figured out, and are input means nothing)
agreed, a little tough love never hurt anyone. no homo
I would trade you young guys all my gear for your natty test. Did not even think of doing gear until my stength started to backslide because of low test. That was when I was 50 plus years old! You guys have the test natty to get big. It's kitchen and gym work you need. I've seem it many times a young kid will come talk to us bigger guys and ask how to get big. There is no magic pill or potion. Hard work is the only way, gear or not. Patience is a tough lesson to learn. Zewi, Fast48, Tread, Viking, get paid nothing for there expertise and advise. We want to help you young guys. We didn't have the Internet to get this sort of expertise when we were growing up. So my young friends hopefully a few of you will make the right choice and don't fuck up the rest of your lives because of bad mistake when you were 20!
mick118My take on this is.
Nobody really knows the perfect age to start AAS. Mid twentys is usually quoted.
I would not use AAS unless 3 conditions are met.
You have stopped growing both in terms of height and muscle. This is a no-brainer.
Lifting heavy weights WITHOUT aas while still growing is not recommended by many medical specialists and med clinics due to evidence of stunted growth.
You have reached near your genetic limit naturally.
You have done 30+ hours of research reading other peoples stories and experience and learning from their mistakes
zewiMy turn to rage my turn. Let’s see if I can do this without dropping the word fuck.(well that didn’t take long)…
Uncle Zewi is going to drop his 2 cents even though my two brothers GS9902 and FAST dropped the hammer. But I’m going to drop mine.
If you want to be 22 and do AAS fine your right it’s your choice, But don’t you dare come here and look like a dumbass, and expect to get answers. If you come in here without doing research and post some jacked up cycle, you will get no love from me and I’ll let you know, cause I will be in your face.(and I’m sure the rest of the vets). If you come on here to learn I will give you respect regardless of your age.
However, I will even if you come here with the best cycle the best laid out diet and your 22 I will still say you’re too young. Why because I want you to do a double check, and search yourself and make sure you understand the path you are about to take.
Yes we will get in your face about your age; do you think we are doing that because we get are jollies off? No we do it because we care, and a few of us have made the mistake. However, 99% of you younglings are going to choice AAS regardless of your age—and if you come in here and have done your research and show that you know something be prepared to still get flamed, But also be prepared to get help. And more understanding of the cycle you are going to run.
But you come in here, young ones, and disrespect us by showing your lack of research maturity you will get no love from us, and to that I say happy trails because you’re fucked.
How in the world do you get a +1 for this post?
mattyjay25because I got balls to speak my mind and possibly be negged to minus 20?
which im sure will still happen
also wanna state rule 3 - DO NOT tag "downvote" simply because you disagree with the poster. Everyone has their own experience with products or sources.
I dont think it warrats a + or - vote. Nothing wrong with speaking your mind.
Well the PROBLEM is you YOUNG guys don't FUCKING READ all you do is ask fucking questions! Instead of going back two whole fucking pages YOU yes ALL of YOU ask the same fucking question we just answered a whole 2 hours ago!!! Yes it gets old as fuck! When somebody asks a question based on the merit and sincerity of the question, VETS will bend over backwards to help an honest smart guy when other guys are obviously lazy fucks or are too unintelligent to spend a few moments READING! Is that too much to ask? Yes we want everyone to be safe. Without question that is the main reason why I spend sometimes hours out of everyday answering questions and exchanging PM's with guys who are putting in the hours doing their own research before asking question. It's a sign of respect to the guy you are asking for help from and a sign of respect for yourself that you actually give a fuck about yourself.
Then your going to say in this post to just keep MY MOUTH shut and just answer YOUR FUCKING QUESTION????? OH fuck that. How bout you rephrase that Bubba! How bout you shut your fucking mouth and spend DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS, YEARS like the rest of have before you ask a single fucking question. I am almost positive that if you actually DID that you would have found the answer to that SAME FUCKING QUESTION literally ONE PAGE BACK.
Guys who know me know I will spend days going back in forth in PM's getting Cycles and diets and PCT's all lined up. I actually have more fun doin that than anything. But dude it's old when it's getting more and more obvious that young guys are refusing to spend time on their own doing homework. The problem starts there, not with us man. It's easy to blame somebody else for your problems.
mattyjay25Not blaming at all, I research like crazy and I am part of other forums.. I search and ead threads and ead as many as I can, and when it comes down to it 85% of the time those threads are not personal enough to what I want to know. so when this happens I will ask the question myself. I dont know why you are talking the way you are I said I didnt mean any disrespect or mean to be rude I was just simply stating the fact that I have specific questions I need answers not lectures.
Take this thread how you want to, but I feel pretty good about what I said and im sure some people can respect me for coming out here and speaking how I feel.
however people looking at you post not so much.. no need for that language and dis respect!!! its not about how hard/tuff you can be its about how inspirational and good of a person you can be
Come on bro a little cussing got u upset? You stated your perspective and I gave you the polar opposite. Every argument has two sides. Unless you only think it's fair for you to have one?
mattyjay25lol, It just seemed like a more personal attack but I gotcha ya know..
you have your right, sorry
Bro no need to apologize. I honestly think my best help has always come from PM"S. Straight up it's the only way to get things done in privacy and geared for me personally. I have been doing AAS for 6yrs or so and I still have a mentor. Nowadays it isn't about what compound does what but more dialed in details about my diet and training. Find a mentor who knows his shit and stick with him. I think you'll do better that way, that's the way I do things.
So I do understand everybody needs to aks questions. My point came off harsh only because, well, I'm an asshole and I cuss way too much but my point is still very true. Doing the homework before asking the question is a sign of respect and says a lot about the individuals asking the questions. I just read ur thread which I think explains why you wrote this:-) But it looks like Roid Noid still gave a legit cycle layout for you.
mattyjay25yeah he hooked it up after.. and respect bro, you have my respect 100! I was just bn a little dickhead
Ur golden bro:-) No worries
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The answers are not only here. Your own reseach should be done. Like anything else in life, nothing worthwhile comes easy. Learning by yourself makes important concepts stick. Every possible senario can not be touched on. Whithout proper research, you would not understand how to remedy a problem when it arises. Are you going to wait til something bad happerns then have to wait for a response from someone on eroids? get the answer, then wait for a supplier to ship what you may need to remedy the problem, at that point with much heavier consequences. In reguard to the age thing there is a reason behind that (scientifically) not just because you are young and dumb. Natural testosterone production at an age prior to reaching maturity can be affected permanently along with other consequences. Therefore in reguards to that questin, that is the answer to the advice being sought. That being said, I applaud your dedicaton to improving yourself and hope that you are able to accomplish all your goals.
Straight up...you young guys that come on here better be up n ready to get that dad speech like it or not! Forum Nazi...dickhead or anything that refers to me is fine. My only goal is trying to keep youngsters natty as long as possible. So coming on hete....you're gonna get hazed, chewed and aggro at times. At the young ages your already volcanic as far as hormones go. I was that hardgainer. Food jumped me up 18lbs all natty in 6 Weeks time. So warning...yes i'm gonna bark loudly. But you'll always get straight answers on this site. Us old farts don't want errors repeated. Noone goes unscathed. Even me. Swallow those tears and hit that gym natty til you're maxed out before jumping into this. Too many "i want it now" kids on the monthly flavor. All us older folks been there already wishing to trade spots. RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!! What you do affects you forever.....
mattyjay25lol, alright ill let ya because you are a truly good guy, and are very helpful, hope once im older and more experienced I can do the same
You will. And well versed by then too. Keep lifting n sharing man
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