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Hey so I thought Id post this for everyone young like me 19-25.
The reason I am posting this is because it seems everytime we post on here we get hit with the too young or the no experience or not training long enough or w.e it is.
First I will speak for myself, I am 22 years old I have been training since I was 14 years old. I never touched a thing until 18 and the only reason I did was because it kept being pushed on me and I gave in.. and unfortunately it was a dumb choice. I didnt know better and I took d bol for 12 weeks. after this I never touched roids again until about 3 months ago. I am cetified trainer as well as in college for fitness and training. I know my shit and if you knew me you would know I am a freak when it comes to working out, my parents my friends will tell you I am obsessed but I am just vey very dedicated. people were making me take days off I hated taking one day off. I give my heart to this and I want to be a fitness model in the future and I will do it with every shed of blood tears and sweat I have.
So when you wanna talk about me taking the easy way out, who the fuck are you to judge me we are on a steroid forum!!? Some even most just take steroids to be big to be strong to w.e I do it because its my dreams and passion to be on top some day.
So when I ask a question, please give me the answer dont speak to me about some shit that has nothing to do with my question.
To all you young guys, we all have our reasons for being there and like me I hope they are good ones.
I may get negged fo this or given a speech but honestly thats okay I am speaking my mind and I think even tho we are the babies of the forum we dont deserve to be treated like em..
no before I sound like a total asshole I also want to say some of you have given me great responses and I appreciate you all for that this place has truly helped me in so many ways. especially FAST48 he is an amazing aid
Also listen us young guys understand you care and know whats up bette than us but if we are on this forum and already have gear and already made our minds then you dont need to tell us we are ready to roll, so just give us the answers we desperately need because only YOU have the answers we need.!
no disrespect to eroids I love this place! thanks for reading and sory if I offended
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CleyonYou are a very cunning linguist.
You sir, are a genius
Here at eroids, we call this type of intuitive, thoughtful response "Goth-worthy". I love these, because it means I don't have to lift a single brain cell---all the work has already been done for me.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go dry my eyes.
LMAO definitely Goth worthy! The force is stong in that one!
That in turn made me cry too, no homo.
Proud to call you my friend ED
Thanks brother. With all this passion and love... please excuse me while I go and kill a hooker.
CleyonGlad you said that, I was worried you weren't feeling the love.
ED FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD
GOOD WORK
The wordsman!
Thanks for your input ED... like cleyon says we all hope he listens
zewilmao..
good read..
CleyonHoly crap! I didn't go look at his pictures... OK, I'm not going to hate on young man, I've looked worse. It wasn't that long ago, I've posted pictures too. But age isn't the only thing that disqualifies him for AAS in my mind, he needs to get further down the path before he looks for chemical assistance.
You are the master of words. wish I had the ability to express myself like this.
ps somebody needs to come up with a chuck norris joke for this guy.
Thanks bro. I'm also a master of baiting.
Chuck Norris' diarheatical shit gives more heart to bodybuilding than this guy.
Yeah Ive heard tread say you work him pretty good.
guy
Would it be wrong to get a sticky in the newbie section entitled "Dont be this gy?"
CleyonI have to weigh in on this. I'm not nearly as experienced as Viking, Zewi, Tread, ect. But I have done a ton of reading here and in other places. I've talked to a lot of people who are experienced, and I think I'm qualified enough to say what I'm about to say...
The reason nobody wants to give cycle advice to the youngsters is because they don't want to permenently screw you up! It's just that simple. Do you think the guys on here are so uncaring as to want to tell you how to do something that might permanently kill your ability to naturally produce testosterone?
When I first posted on a steroid forum asking for advice I was asked for the same things.
Age; If you aren't old enough people are going to tell you so, if you don't like it, start reading to find out why they are telling you that.
Weight/Height/BF%; Listen we know that some people are looking for the "magic pill", and if they haven't been putting the work in, then they aren't going to be happy with the results. I honestly believe that for the vast majority of society, excercise and diet will get them to the results they are after. If you've already done those two correctly, then congratulations, you're well on your way.
Goals; Nobody wants to suggest Dbol for a cutting cycle. By the same reasoning, if I tell you to take one thing, but it goes completely against what you're trying to accomplish, then that's just stupid.
Experience; If you've already got 10 cycles under your belt, then you should have a good amount of information. The facts are that very few people actually have that much experience, and those that have that experience aren't listening to anyone!
So instead of getting your panties in a twist, use your brain and try to understand why you are being told the things you are being told.
Thanks for your valued input bro... this is what your documentary is aiming at right!
Thats cool brother... just hit you some points now we are in general
CleyonThanks Viking, it feels good to contribute.
CleyonRight on point! I'm going to make one for the newbs on my way home from work tonight,
zewinicely put.. Do i see a Ride time coming..
CleyonDrive Time 10 will need it's very own sticky...
zewiyes it will Rage time.. i new it was coming i cant wait.. I think i need to make a rage youtube channel..
CleyonMaybe I should make a new channel "Roid Rage with Cleyon"
WEll said.
CleyonThanks, hopefully he listened. Nothing but love ya know.
I guess it's just a matter of time till the 20 something's take over. Hopefully when they do they take some of what the vets are saying with them. The way things are going first cycles will become tren filled madness. Starting to feel like the old men in the theater on the muppets. Hate to see them wishing they had listened as they are taking there last breath
No1I take them to look good and I could careless what anyone on the internet says
All i have to say here is that i spend about 20 hours pr wk in PM giving advice not just chatting... sometimes one question can take an hour to answer then the back up PMs come in to clarify things!... sometimes i cannot find time in a day to answer PMs due to personal commitments and my own lifestlye so i constantly have a back log which stresses me sometimes due to me liking to be on top of things.. then i try to give honest advice on cycle posts etc which takes even more time... all of this like zewi and GS have said is all for free... we certainly dont get paid and i will not accept any form of GIFT for advice.
This post has seriously got me thinking about trimming my friend list down to the bone and not accepting anymore FRs... so from now on if i dont know you zero advice will be given... classic case of biting the hand that feeds you here! i apolagise to any youngsters that i have offended by trying to give honest safe solid acvice... and also apolagise to any of you that may now miss out on any solid info! notice no bad language on this post uncle vike is cool with all this and can now concentrate his efforts and advices to brothers that truly have got the commitmant that this game needs i have enough good brothers in my friends list to keep me well busy with cycles and more importantly diet and nutrition... thats why most vets are big boys and most noobs are either fat or dwarfs lmfao!
I don't post a huge amount, but I spend a huge part of what little free time I have reading posts by guys like Viking, Zewi, Fast etc and I would HATE to see that pool of knowledge limited as a result of stuff like this. I personally haven't asked for advice in PM format from you, but I'd just like to let you know you guys are appreciated, you all affect my training / diet daily.
I grumble a bit....but everyone here will still bend over to help. Everyones kinda pissed here because it's usually thankless and free. Kinda makes the effort seem cheap.
Part of the reason I said what I said in my post was because of the conversation me and you had on our last PM. I know for a fact those of us that have a clue what we are saying can spot a guy who actually has the passion for this lifestyle. Those are the guys who spend all day either in the kitchen or in the gym and when they aren't in either place they're online reading up on new stuff. Whether its AAS or diet or Training, they're soaking it all up. I'm working with one guy who at first seemed like he just wanted answers but after a few days of PM's it was obvious to me he wanted to do things the right way. So I just unloaded, all the tricks and all the diet tips and even went as far as writing out a complete diet for him. I knew he was into it cuz he had a few changes to my diet i wrote. It said to me that he wasn't just asking for me to do all the work, that he was processing what I was saying and changed it to meet his goals. That's what keeps me glued to this site brother. When a young buck has that moment when he/she Gets it When the light bulb goes on! It really is satisfying to me to see that kind of growth. It makes all the time spent worth while. I know for a fact you feel the same way. The enthusiasm you had when I told you how much weight I had lost this year and just how much fun you have talking about your Queen SuzyB. You are one I can say actually loves this lifestyle more than almost anything else in life. I have had a few different mentors on this site. But YOU my brother are the one that made me look deep inside of myself and wonder if I had what it takes to be a living Gladiator! Whether I could sculpt my body into the image I have always dreamed about as a kid. You kept putting challenges in front of me and pushed me to keep going. You may not realize how much of an impact you have had on me brother. I am still on my path to what I have imagined for myself. I still have goals which need to be met. I am not going to quit, I refuse to accept defeat. I will lift harder than ever, I will count each and every one of my calories, I cannot stop this train. Not now not tomorrow not ever. That's the stuff I learned from you, this isn't a fad. Nope no way, Not until the wheels fall off Viking!
zewinicely written brother.
Honestly Vike and I were talking about something similar a couple days ago.
Very nice bro... stuck for words you got me all emotional.
mr127superdeeNO VIKING NO! CALM DOWN AND COUNT TO 10....YOUR ADVICE IS MUCH APPRECIATED. and i know i need it
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Panic not brother..you are on my good list!
You showed the attitude of a man!
zewiSo we can make lists now.. We should have a Vets forum so we can rate a user..And put them on the naughty or good list..lmao
Fact is bro most of our guys are spot on and absorb good info like a sponge and get some shit hot results... there are always a couple rotton apples in a barrel... you know what i mean well.
Just certain things light my touch paper bro.. especially when i am on a helping curve.
zewiI feel you brother.. You love us to much...
Van love for the win..
Lmfao!... meal six on the brew right now... eat and smile brother thats me!
zewifood always helps.. I love food..
Hey Viking,
I am a newb but not a youngster,not a dwarf and am just starting my quest. I do not however take advice for granted and do my own research. It would be a shame for myself and others like me not to be able to benefit from someone with your knowledge due to a post of this nature. Hope that you would reconsider and understand that not all newbs feel this way.
zewiI think what Viking is saying, is he is tired of giving advice and not shown some respect. He along with many others, that give great advice are on this board 20hrs a week or more have families. But still have time for everyone here, just to get crapped on that we don't no anything. I think Viking is getting tired. That all this information is here, and it isn't going to use. And when someone receives advice from a VET that they don't like--then the question is after awhile--why even bother?
Truth is the VETS care--just saying, how far are people going to take it-- were the ones that give the most and best advice stop..
I can understan the frustration. I have been reading the hell out of this forums and see all the work that you guys do, just for the love of it and a desire to help others. Just know that it IS appreciated. I have learned a lot from all of you and hope to continue to be able to do so.
zewiWell said.. The man the myth the legend.. Viking..
you said dwarfs...lmao