posted Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:57
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Test P WTF!
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Well I'm on week 2 of a test p 100mg eod 4 week kicker. 500 test e 12 weeks.
Good news is the pip from a new oil carrier is not bad at all. Bad news just as in my test p taper from my last cycle it is making me SICK!
By day 2 my whole body aches legs mainly and the fatigue is god awful, cold chills but no fever. Now here is the WEIRD thing. I have been taking IBUPROFEN 800MG and it solves everything i feel like a million bucks. But when it wears off WOW here comes hell! Feel like I got ran over!
No issue with the test e I know it's the p. Is this what people call the test flu? It doesn't look like it's going to pass it's been 10 days now of this.
Well any advice other than the obvious of gut it out or drop the test p!
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Well after much thought I'm going to cut my prop dose in half and see how it goes 50mg eod. If that doesn't help I guess I'm done with prop. Damn that Sucks I have 10 viles of test p :(
Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. Feeling like shit isnt worth it.
We are all different. Not every steroid is going to agree with us in the same way.
I've determined I can't run prop. Each time I've tried it I've had crazy body aches like I had the flu but I felt fine. I would need to pop advice all day to counter. It did a number on my stomach and it gets old quick.
Oh and I tried different labs, different doses, different pinning protocol, zinc, vitamin c but nothing worked.
I tried an experiment with NPP and it did the same thing to me. Test E and C have no similar effect. Something in the prop Ester doesn't agree with me
Either pull the prop, lower the dose, or try ed pinning. 50mg prop ed MIGHT cut down sides. It sounds like maybe prop hits you really hard. Test flu is your body's reaction to an influx of foreign substance. If I pin more than 150mg prop at one time I'm guaranteed to have test flu within 2 hours. Try 50ed and see how it works if you still want it as a kicker. Keep us updated bro.
The oil carrier is GSO. The previous prop I used was Saflower oil. Both from top sources. But same results.
As blackdoug states many say zinc and vitamin c will help with test flu but they are also the vitamins people load up on for just about any type of illness. However 10 days seems a bit long for test flu.
Is EO (ethyl oleate) the carrier? If so sounds like you are one of the unlucky ones that's allergic to it. Some that are it ends up passing but I'd say that at 10 days that's not going to happen. Really a shame if that's the case I think EO makes for some of the smoothest gear out there.
AnonMy best guess would he is allergic to EO and ironically i was speaking with someone yesterday who ran one of the top sources Sust blend's which contained EO and they told me that it lasted for 10 days like you stated above.
Drop the prop then what's the point of kick starting it if your sick I'm sure its effecting your workouts. Iv had test flu from prop to but only lasted a couple days
x2 being sick completely defeats the purpose of kick starting
Ok I remember bro zinc. It does sound exactly like the test flu and zinc will help but truthfully if you are having that many problems with it then maybe test p isn't for you. Everybody reacts a little different. You could use dbol as your kicker just make sure you're taking a liver supplement. Also are you aspirating? You may be more vascular than most people and if you're riddled with capillaries than it may be getting into your blood stream more easily
Yes I always aspirate when pinning.
First off bro you shouldn't be taking ibuprofen if you can avoid it. Tylenol too. If you have to take something I'd take alieve (sodium naproxen) it's not too hard on the liver. Also make sure you are taking liver support. It almost sounds like you're magnesium or potassium deficient. I'm gonna have to look that 1 up. Hopefully someone else chimes in but lay off the ibuprofen and Tylenol bro seriously!
AnonYes def lay off ibuprofen and tylenol as much as you can, 100 percent take liv. 52 it is an excellent liver care supplement. Also the headaches your getting so much are called cluster headaches and by you mixing two different test esters and the mg's combined of both, your body isnt able to handle it. Now i am not saying that this will occur perm but everything your describing had happened to myself about 2 years ago while i was running a test eth only cycle but i suffer from migraines in general ever since i was a little child.. I dont experience to much anymore especially not now a days like i did in my younger years but i noticed when i was on this test cycle my headaches were coming back more and more but i was still able to deal with them until i had began to up my test dosage during the cycle from 250mg x 2 shots a week of test cyp to 250mg x 3 shots a week increasing my test intake to 750mg a week and ill never for get this because i was in florida on vacation at the time and it was the end of december so weather was nice and warm, actually had some nice upper 80's day during the week but the point i am trying to get across is that my headaches that i was getting here and there when i was at 500mg's a week, went through the roof i was getting what said i mentioned above cluster headaches which is basically you continually have headaches for long periods of time during the day and evening and it was going on for days it was horrible and such an annoyance. Also because the headaches were accuring so some much that i began to get stomach pains and at times would even throw up. Now the cluster headaches can be brought on by a number of reason's 1: Of course being my increase of 250mg of test that week, now why did it make my headaches so much worse and last so much longer then they were... Well the conclusion my doctor and came to was that my blood pressure was rising at a rate which my body was not used for starters which made my RBC's ( red blood cells) much thicker therefore making blow flow throughout my body faster causing my headache to pulsate at much higher rate from which ir was used to having occur. Now the way to get rid of a headache is to actually to shrink down the blood cells in your head which makes sense that people take tylenol for headaches, i am prescribed since i have migraines tylenol 3's which is tylenol with codeine. It is low dosage of codeine its not like a real deal pain killer or anything that you could get high off but they do what they are supposed to do, they get rid of my awful headaches by shrinking down the blood cells in my forehead.... another way to get rid of bad headaches which i do especially when i am on a cycle is i will take a half a tylenol 3 and drink tons of cold water to bring down my body temp as well as run freezing cold water under my head for as long as i can take it and then raise my head up for a min or 2 and then repeat this until i start to feel real relief and i promise you, you get relief from doing this. Anyway i had this occur for about 7-10 days so i do think you have the test flu i think the boys are correct when they say it is the mixture of the prop and eth combined or it just may be the dosage is to high at the moment for your body and it is still getting used to it.
well said chapter, that much nurofen is just toxic! its simple, if you have to start popping pain killers like candy its time to stop or switch oils, whats next? start adding liver supps to help with the toxicity? then start adding gastro stop to counter act the diareoah that causes? and so on.... if its broke fix it...
Yea thanks for the heads up I'll switch to alieve.