posted Mon, 11/05/2012 - 08:05
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so i am just finishing up my first week of my first cycyle of test e...Before i would never get a solid 8 hours of sleep, always wake up, have a hard time falling asleep. I never took naps. Now when six pm rolls around, im out for the count for like a solid hour. When the night rolls around 1030 there is no getting me up and i sleep for at least 8 hours. in the same stretch of sleep i will have dreams about my dreams, where the hell do they do that at? This is incredible. Is this normal or is it just my reaction to the Test? All i could find is shit about sleep and hgh
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mr127superdeethe only time i have trouble sleeping on cycle is when my estro is out of whack get a blood test if its under 20 its too low and if its over 30 its to high keep us updated brother!
Not to rob your thread but since we are talking about sleep, its important to understand somethings that take place in your sleep. Your highest GH pulse is always going to be right before sleep onset and you hit transient sleep stage 1,2, for a few minutes and then Delta Sleep 3,4 or (slow wave sleep)for 30 minute or and hour you will initially stay in delta sleep. Your pulse usually is maxing right when you enter into delta sleep. Then you have a few more short cycles of delta sleep through out the night, but with minimal GH pulse, not very impressive. Later after a few hours of sleep is when your first REM cycle with take place, releasing testosterone and burning the highest amount of clalories during REM sleep, the brain stem takes over the physiological body functions and the body is busy adjusting and correcting all that ailes them. Rem sleep will usually become more rampant after 3 am until you wake up is when you have the most REM sleep and is usually why guys wake up with morning wood cause they just woke up after a REM cycle.
Theres seems to be a system in place though I believe the GH pulse is the highest early on as well as prolaction secreation preparing the body for the next phase of work and repair for when testosterone is released during REM sleep. This IMHO is one reason GH and testosterone work so synergistically because if the body natually works in this motion or pattern, why not do it when you cycle if your 40 yr old and up to make things work synergestically it only improves your imbalances. OK I've ramble enough LOL
excellent info bro. thanks
Anonshoot.. keep it coming brotha! fr sent!
Are you "tired" or "sluggish" Fatigue on cycle *could" be an indicator of HIGH estro... Are you using an AI? This early in a cycle seems a bit odd but you may want to get some bloods done to see where your estro stands
hmmm i have an AI on hand, thanks for the insight. i will get blood work done. should i possibly start to take AI while i wait for them to come back??
usually i am kind of awake the whole night. i would wake up to the drop of a pin. I would be wide awake at 7 am at the latest, i slept in beautifully until 9 this morning and had to pry my eyes open. some of the most refreshing sleep i have ever gotten absolutely amazing
AnonI wish that was my reaction. What a blessing !
Anonfor real! pinned 1.5 cc of sust250 3 days ago. sleep went to shit 2 days later. seems like i wake up every 2-3 hours at best.
AnonYeah it sucks not getting a good nights sleep. I havent slept well in years. Test or HGH doesnt seem to help for me. Ive even tried the delta sleep inducing peptide.
Holla at me sometime dawg maybe I can help u out. Just send a fr if you want help
AnonSent !! And thanks !
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AnonDont worry brother I will be happy to become a sleep guinea pig and then share any thing with you.
REM sleep rapid eye movement is when you dream and you naturally release testosterone your synthetic testosterone test E is mimicing the natural release time periods of REM sleep helping you sleep better since your levels are increasing above normal natural levels. Rem sleep is when you get boners and if you start waking up without morning wood then that means your possibly getting shut down and my need to start you AI and HCG at this stage you don't need it but in a few weeks things will change, varies from person to person. Good Question and this is why you do Test E only on first cycle cause most ASS is going to have a different side effect, so learn and make a log of things if you like it will help you down the road.
Anongood info indeed. +1
Thanks bro if you ever got any questions about sleep PM bro its my field of specialty.
Nice information +1
Glad to help anytime.
thank you sir
Yeah man