posted Sun, 08/25/2013 - 08:28
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Scumbag sources!!!
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I'm not saying anyone in particular but Ive noticed alot of sources screwing people over on here lately and I can't imagine why you would want to ruin your rep with this community in particular when you have it so good?? Is it greed? Because if your being noticed on here for being a damn good source your gonna be filled with business for years but it seems some dont care at all I really can't understand I own a business myself now for almost a decade granted its legit but I'm always giving my customers same products that they came to me for in the beginning id rather have long term customers than a short spin of money bc I cheated people and then my rep is ruined? WHAT'S THE DEAL any good source wanna chime in on this
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Anonthe warnings have been there bro.. people complaining about waiting months and being lied to about trackers etc. but still, somehow, enough high ranked karma members who are getting free gear will preach the source and the "little guys" will get ignored. You want the cause of the problem? go to the highest ranked members who push these sources, promote them etc... but now they're no where to be found until they move on to the next one.. Ive never trusted anyone who builds their business around the facsimile that they're the same as your best friend - seems fake to me.
Props to you bro, "x was kind enough to send me x to sample" - BS lol
the only solution to this problem is for ppl to leave honest reviews.
Unfortunately though brother we have even seen people ignore that time and time again and order from sources who still lie about packages going out even when many have said they did not receive.
Im confused by what u mean, ppl do leave reviews of package not received right... so if they do that , others will read and not order. if one person does it , it may not be heard. but if 5 - 6 ppl do it, then it should raise some flags. especially if u got ppl w/ high karma doing it, that way ensures that no one is trolling the source. which is why i alway urge ppl w/ 70+ karma to vote and review that way the more active members of the site review
Sorry for being vague. A little while back there was a source on here that multiple people were not getting their packs waiting for months in some cases. These members posted that in their reviews and on the SRC boards. Others would still order and then later come and complain that they didn't get their packs. Despite their being many reviews that people had not received. Even the mods chimed in and said something like I can't believe you are ordering from here after reading about people not receiving etc.
elecshortsThe problem is that this is still true at present and some of the offenders are still top 10 companies according to the current rating system. When companies give out free gear to high karma members for good reviews, the rating system is a sham. I am not sure how you fix that tho.
See but that is on the members because they are the ones f*cking up the rating system if they are not honest in their reviews. Now say a source gives our free gear but it is phenomenal meaning it works great, well then they earned the review. I got an email from a source on her offering me $150.00 or $200.00 worth of free gear if I gave them a 10 rating all the way around and a good review. So I gave that to a mod and I will never use that source because they no better. Some may think that is ratting I look at as protecting my brothers besides bitch slapping the source for trying to buy my integrity wasn't a current option!:)
Certain source may try to pull shit but the members who give into it are the ones that make it happen. Also if you have evidence of your above accusation you need to take it to a mod. that is your obligation as a member, but if you don't know that for sure than don't say it by guessing.
elecshortsHow would I know what happens between other members and sources for sure? I just can figure no other way a source stays in the top ten and provides shit service. Good reviews should sort that shit out.
Yes they should and the mods are on top of deleting and penalizing people for fake or bad reviews. But that is why I say I don't know what source your are talking about staying in the top 10? Not that you should name them here, what I am saying is if currently you know their is a source in the top ten spot that is there by false reviews etc than you should say something about it.
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are writing but it looks like you are saying that is the current situation about a top ten source. And that you know it to be true.
dealers give out free gear to all kind of ppl. 30 pt for karma is not high at all. If some ppl cant read reviews then if they get scammed, what can u do, they didnt pay attention.. like i said reviews are the only way that what the system is for.
Anonif 98% of the reviews start with... " " was nice enough to let me partake in his ______ PROMO
well.........
that says enough
and thats why u should only trust the review made by ppl who leave lab tests and pics.. luckly for me i know acouple of guys on here who i can trust, so i just ask them where to go.. like i said its honesty..and the system needs to be rethinked, but its really the members that are fucking up..
Anona lot of people don't understand that bro.. they think a shit load of good reviews = earned reviews.
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ClassyChassisNot to defend or excuse anyone, but the sources are also dealing with shady characters. In the case of counterfeit pharma, they may not even know (or care) and if they receive bunk raws /hGh they are going to pass it on. And of course some drug dealers are not above stepping on a product to increase profits. And some can not seem to resist selectively scamming large orders. Plus some sources may have addictions of their own, whether drugs, gambling, or whatever, that they have to support, and addicts are notorious for placing themselves first.
So there are a lot of reasons why some of these things occur. Again, not excusing anything. Some sources may be g2g at times and not so good at others. A source contemplating getting out may decide to turn scammer and ride it out. So, many reasons why a source may not follow the same business model of a legit business. Of course many do, and there are some very stand up sources on here. I think the appreciation of them is what leads to fanboyism, which considering the overall context, is easy to understand.
Have you been scammed bro?
Actually this isn't really a new trend it has been going on since I started observing sources. It may seem more pronounced but we also have more sources popping up due to the nature of making a quick buck. Like someone has said they are drug dealers plain and simple. They got into this to make money. Not to first help people get bigger and stronger. Granted some can have integrity and treat their customers right ,but I am speaking about the majority. Also we don't really no what any source is like until he gets tested with adversity and then we see their true character. Unfortunately this post won't change any of them not even for a minute. those who are shady will stay shady those who are not won't be apt to prove they are not.
The only real deterrent for a source to stay upright once they have built a rep for good gear is that they don't want to lose their position because they will lose money. Like I said there can always be the exceptions to this rule but I believe it is very very rare.
Totally agree. I aggregate most of my purchases with one source, and work with two others. They have treated me okay and I will likely send them more business. But hardly a fanboy. I recognize the relationship and the nature of the transactions.
noob941you get +1 for aggregate not only is it the first word i have had to look up on here, but i also had to read all the definitions twice to determine which applied. i feel a little smarter now thnx
Greekmuscle1Well said!