Pre loading syringes
I’ve had 5 bottles of Tren ace sitting around for awhile now and decided to work a low dose into my cycle l. Right now I’m doing 50mg eod. The only bad sides I’m getting is not sleeping for shit everything else is great but it seems like sleep is worse the day after injects so I’m going to try 30mg everyday injections. I use 29 gauge 1/2 inch insulin syringes to do my injections and 23 gauge to draw. To save on time and drawing needles I’m thinking of pre loading syringes for a weeks worth of injections. These would be brand new out of the bag syringes. Do you think I can maintain sterility if I draw a weeks worth of syringes and keep them loaded in a ziplock bag? It would be much easier to just pull them out then drawing and loading everyday.
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Alphamale500I honestly don't think you would have much of a problem if the pre-loaded syringes are kept in some sort of sterile environment, but then again, anytime you preload syringes you are taking the chance of bacterial contamination! Are loading your syringes really taking you that long? Maybe you can choose a slightly lower gauge pin.
For improved sleep, try injecting your tren right before bed as opposed to AM’s. I found back in my tren days that it takes a good # of hours for the tren to circulate in the blood. If you inject in the AM, you’re revved up by bedtime. If you inject before bed you’ll be revved up after a good 8 hr sleep.
Alphamale500That's actually how I used to avoid any sides associated with injecting melanotan 2, by taking my injection right before bed. Great tip!!
Interesting..never heard this..is it the same in your experience for tren a and e??
This is how I inject, right before bed. Its because if you are mixing ace in with prop the test prop kicks in between 6 to 8 hours so when you get up its that that's making you feel energized. The tren starts at around 5 hours in and then as the prop builds it adds the energy into the mix.
You were right on the ED injects bro this is only my 3rd day and it’s eliminated all the sides I was having no trouble with sleep or lethargy since
In terms of the lethargy buddy, this was something I suffered greatly with at first. I've tried many things out and the things I've found personally work against it are Dbol (Inject), L Tyrosine, Vitamin D3, Creatine (ATP & Adrenaline stimulation), Caffeine, Dextrose (powder & Tabs), TNE.
Some of those you can't run all the time, some you may not want to run at all but they are what I've found effective to counteract the tiredness.
That's great to hear mate, doing it EOD you can feel like a junky going cold turkey when you are training can't you lol ..You'll soon start to see better results in your training too from more stable hormone levels
Nice..thanks for the info brother..i have yet to use tren so I have no experience with it at all..thanks man
When using slin pins I don't backload. Don't really think there is a need to. Diabetics aren't backloading all of their pins. That should save you some time and pins. I don't see how you don't enough time for the 30 seconds it takes to load the pin though, lol. For peace of mind I wouldn't store pins loaded unless absolutely necessary.
Well I should rephrase that to convience then time saving. I don’t keep my gear in my dresser it’s well hidden so getting it out is a small 2-3 minute process. I’m on probation and I’ve been on for a long time and doing everything I’m supposed to do so the chance of someone coming and looking through my things is very low but I still wouldn’t want it found as easy as going through my dresser.
How busy is your day you don't have time to draw up some gear.
I'd be considered with sterility and the rubber stopper degrading. Take the time to draw up your gear as and when you need it, if it's slightly warmed it goes in nice and easy.
I’ve done it for maybe 3 days worth while pinning ED. I wouldn’t pre-load a syringe if your not going to be able to use with in 3 days.
That's pretty much what I was thinking
I'm pretty sure the plungers degrade...the first few days you will probably be fine but again if the rubbers breaking down it's not sterile anymore..i wouldn't pre load but that's just me
I’ve screwed up and left one for a week loaded and you could actually see the oil change colors, and the plunger being eatin up by the solvents.
I’ve done the same, I’ve drawn up tne before and forgotten about it, few days later and it was all fucked up. The solvents tore right threw the plunger.
Really made me think wtf am I injecting into my muscles.
Guaiacol will dissolve rocks, it certainly won't have any problems with a rubber stopper. Anything with that in it you for sure can't leave in a pin.
Ace VenturaThat’s why I always smoke all my rocks before any pesky Guaiacol can have a chance to get near ‘em
Ya not cool...And if your rushing and don't see it then even worse
Is the corrosion obvious? I’ve preloaded 4 and am going to keep an eye on them but if I pull the plunger from the syringe and look at it before inject the corrosion should be obvious right?
Honestly you might not see it..id think the plunger would stick or leak..move weird etc..i don't pre fill so I can't say for sure brother
discoloration, difficult to slide the plunger, leaking.
daksmack is talking out his ass. Three days is a arbitrary guess by him. HeavymetalmonsterD is also making an assumption.
I've had 3 week long trips where I'll have preloaded two syringes, the 2nd one is 2 weeks old by the time it's been used.
Good to know what to look for. Thanks!
Well I was just giving my personal experience, which is real experience, nothing out my ass. Glad to see your plungers lasted longer then mine.
Right, so go back a page and see the post about solvents.
I’m not going to argue with you, obviously if your gear lasted 2 weeks or even 3, whatever the time you’ve had success with, then that’s great. I wish I had the same luck. I work oil and gas and am gone for weeks at a time, I have never had luck with pre-loading that long, no matter what solvents I’ve used. Buuuut I don’t appreciate you saying I’m talking out my ass, this site is to help one another, and I contributed my actual experience.
You're right, I read the comment as being more "fact based" and not a personal opinion. There was no reason for me coming on so hard.
Your correct it was a guess..i meant I terms it being noticeable I figured it wouldn't show or be noticeable for a few days minimum...I've even heard stories about people's stoppers in their vials degrading from not storing them upright..but even those guys said it took like a year or something...so again I wouldn't do it but that's just me
You make a good point about not storing bottles upright. I have all mine on their side wrapped in bubble wrap I’m going to start storing them upright I really never even considered that!
I had a buddy who opened his stash and a few were leaking that's how he knew something was up..all same lab...solvents or faulty stoppers or crimps who knows
If you go back a page to my first post you'll see the caveat about solvents being the thing to watchout for.
Still, it's all medical grade rubber so I'm sure it's harmless if there is a little leaching. (In truth though, who'd want to pin something that looks like it's suspended in water from a septic tank?)
StevebGregg Valentino
Lol..point taken bro lmao..i sure wouldn't
x2 on the plunger becoming stiff & awkward to slide after a while, the most irritating thing ever once the needles in and it takes forever to plunge.
StevebYes the solvent will eat away at the seal in the syringes
Two brands of syringes that I’ve tried the rubber would actually break down and it will be much harder to inject if I preload. The third manufacture is not a problem so I guess it depends on where you purchased them.
As far as the Tren goes....sleep makes better gains so do not trade one for the other.
I’ve preloaded 4 to see if it will corrode the rubber so I’ll just have to wait and see. I don’t feel like I’m trading one for the other. I’ve been making great gains just not feeling as rested in the morning so hopefully going to Ed injections will get help
StevebWhy would anyone keep doing something that prevents you from sleeping? That will kill muscle growth for sure.
It doesn’t prevent me from sleeping I just wake up 2-3 times a night where I typically sleep through the whole night so I’m not feeling as rested. I also just started having to get up a little over an hr earlier every morning so that has a little bit to do with it too I think
“I’ve ran one cycle of test and deca at 500mg for 8 weeks and heard tren is a game changer bro”
StevebNot sleeping will change your game
Im too paranoid so I wouldnt. I want to be as sterile as possible
Not a big fan of the pre loading.
You need to inject Ace ED otherwise you will experience the 'comedown' and weakness feeling you are getting the day after injecting, the results you get back are also far superior even when you don't up the total dosage for the week. I'm assuming you wake up because you are hungry and thirsty off the tren?
I’m definitely feeling the comedown the next day as for waking up I’m not sure if it’s because I’m so thirsty or just so hot. As for Ed injections do you think it matters AM or PM? I typically do mine at night
I wake up because the tren makes me so hungry - carbs, protein and hydration. Basically everything it is constantly processing to a much greater level allowing your body to build to a much stronger degree. All you need to do is get something to eat then go back to sleep. I sleep brilliantly on the stuff, much better than just test on its own. I always do mine PM before I go to bed.
If your going to pin ED you should be pinning as close as you can to the same time everyday bro
Preloading is usually not a problem, as long as you keep everything strike and keep the syringes in a cool dry place covered. Zip lock bags are ok.
I’m thinking ether ziplock or maybe even Tupperware so I can sterilize and resterilize every week