posted Tue, 02/26/2013 - 14:06
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Post Cycle Depression
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What do you usually do when you get that down feeling; I call it "Post Cycle Depression" or maybe it is called like that. After several weeks or a month or so after a cycle,I feel awful, I feel very depressed,sleepy,and without energy to go to the Gym. Do you guys/gals take any natural stuff to feel energized? I just need that extra supplement to kickstart my training day or just to go to work. Any advice would be appreciated.
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AnonTry jogging that always helps me feel good about life.. If ur already a runner maybe try running further more often ;p that shit really gets the serotonin pumping bigtime!
Thanks Muppet. Actually I am a runner. Last race was the Miami 1/2 Marathon. Most of this feeling might be that I am close to have an injury in Achilles Tendon and had to stop the running habit. I am starting to lift weights hard again, but lacking a bit of energy. Thanks Again
You should run a female panel on private md. It will give you test,lh,fsh and estradiol. If you were using hcg your estradiol will be high and that is a good reason for emotional mood swings.
Got my Blood Work, but since the range presented in the exam might be for women I do not know if is OK. Can you help me with these numbers.
L.H. .29 mUI/mL
F.S.H. .34 mUI/mL
Estradiol 57.2 pg/mL
Prolactin 7.78 ng/mL
Thanks.
Yes sir. Your F.S.H and L.H. are way low. Your estradiol is high and your prolactin is a little high.
Ranges vary from lab to lab but they are all close. So if your a point or two higher than the range it's no big deal.
Your levels are all a little off and that would explain why your still having issues. Typically after HCG in pct your lh and fsh rebound pretty quickly. The estradiol also elevates from the hcg and rebound from AI's during cycle. I would definately look into this if I were you. If you have been out of cycle for a good time and feel your levels should be back to normal; then I would seek out a doctor. The other thing we do not know is what your test is.
The total test was 714 last week. Should I take Aromasin? Or should I start my cycle ( Programmed for April). What would be the recommended procedure to fix this. Advice Appreciated.
eryximachusDon't cycle again bro. It's not worth it. Whatever you can possibly gain from it will not solve any of the real problems you have right now.
Well kronos this is a judgement call on your part. Your LH and FSH aren't working so your boys aren't really producing any sperm. Your estradiol is high which could stay high on a cycle but then it could go down on cycle with a strong AI. Your LH and FSH would be low on a cycle as well as they already are so whether you PCT now to jump start your levels again or after a cycle might not make a difference. The real question is; do you want to jump on a cycle knowing your levels aren't at 100%? The consequences could be crashing your hormone system for good requiring TRT the rest of your life. I think I would personally get my levels back up by doing another PCT for 6 weeks and then do more bloods. Good luck bro!
If it is because of sperm production, I did Vasectomy about 4 years ago.I am worried since I have not taken any Juice since 2 years ago,but my test levels are High (714) last week. I am very confused about this situation,because testosterone production is happening. Will have to go to Dr. to se what is going on. I will do my homework to see what is the best option. I am in no hurry to start cycle,just thought it would help. I have pct on hand, so I can start next week. Thanks.
I had a vasectomy as well and my levels are all still normal if that helps. Good luck bro!
Just received the rest of Bloodwork.....
Free Test=26.74pg/mL
Total Test:613.28
Just to get the whole picture. Thanks.
Thanks for Info. free and total test will be ready on Friday.
Normal Ranges:
LH 1.7 - 8.6 (you look low here)
FSH 1.5 - 12.4 (low)
Estradiol 7.6 - 42.6 (high)
prolactin 5 -27 (within range)
Thanks you guys/gals. I am thinking this might be hormone related. I did a Blood work ( Lipids,Total Test is 714 and everything is fine) might do a Hormone Check Up, but not sure what to ask for> PLEASE help me what things to check...(Prolactin,Estrogen,Estradiol). Thanks. Will take some EC stack, and ZMA to get a better sleep.
EC Stack. Caffeine/Ephedrine, good energy + good buzz. Can use it for a pre-workout or stay on it all day if you are looking to use a few lbs.
Post cycle is tough but you gotta work through it! Try a pre-workout like jack3d or c4, I find that helps me get that boost during the down time of pct.
I think it's a good ideal to get blood test done. In the long run, its peace of mind to know its from too low test or high estradiol (because you can do something about it). Without the blood test, you won't know if the depression is from something else. And it would suck to live life in depression and never know why.
Take some creatine to help put a couple of pounds back on and keep your muscles looking full. I definitely need some type of pre-workout drink to help push me through my workouts and get pumped up when not cycling.
I am sure adding some pounds will help,since I was running for one year and lost 10+...
zinc is a easy cheap way.. d aspartic acid also boosts test.. I like both of those together for a "natty" cycle lol
I have a bottle of ZMA,should that work? Thanks.
It def helps with bringing natty test back during and after PCT
What is your PCT regiment? That's pretty common about a month out. I would get a blood test done and check your levels. Your test may still be down as well as estradiol may be up. Two signs for depression and the blues. It helps to know that this is going to happen so you can mentally prepare for it. You make yourself go to the gym and eat right because you know it is what you have to do to keep your gains.
Last cycle I did was 2 Years ago. Even with a good PCT I suffered from this. Always used HCG,Clomid and Nolva. Right now I am passing through that tired feeling ( it happens maybe once every 3-4 months). Just wanted to know if you guys take something to get energy back, maybe some N.O., energy gels or a Pre workout supplement. I do take the basics...Multivitamins,Protein,Omega 3 Etc. P.S. Planning on starting 4th cycle in April.
last cycle was 2 years ago, you did pct AND youre still having fits of depression???... theres something else going on that may or may not not relate to AAS. like the others said get bloods taken for hormone levels... that may help answer this question. i get the lull after a cycle too but it shouldnt last that long.
My English is not very goog.Maybe did not express myself,I did my PCT using Nolva and Clomid and followed Swalle's Protocol. I am feeling like many feel after a Cycle. I have been training good and been felt very active. I ran the Miami 1/2 Marathon and been very Hyped. But been feeling very tired and sluggish. During the day I feel sleepy and its been hard to feel good about going to the gym. It is not related to AAS,but wanted help about what to take to feel with energy. My blood test turned out excellent (Lipid profile,RBC,AST,ALT,K,Mg,Test is 714,Hemoglobin) maybe should do Hormones Blood work. maybe Prolactin is affecting. I am sure it is not excess of exercise. Will try some Jack3d or something similar. What should I ask for in Blood Work? Thanks for your advice.
no, you explained it fine. you are on the right track with testing for those levels you listed, and listed by others above. Im no doctor and i cant tell you exactly whats wrong. This answer is for you AND for PELON---- this will sound like an "easier said than done" but ive been through antidepressants, energy stimulants, and every other kind of chemical mood drugs you can imagine... it ended up being a set of mind tricks taught to me by some very progressive people (wont get into it here) that gets me through fits of depression. Mind over matter is pretty powerful, almost like hypnosis. I realize this probably doestn help you but its where my experience has landed me. Check your levels, take the supplements mentioned, try practicing some mind over matter. And as for the PCT, something smells wrong. I used nolva/clomid 40/100 two weeks 20/50 two weeks and dipped for maybe one week and went rigth back to feeling great. Make sure you are getting legit PCT. PM me if you need to see someones PCT with labs.
Thanks. My PCT was legit,since I bought it at a Pharmacy... Nolva is AstraZeneca and Omifin from Sanofi-Aventis. I am sure my problem is either Hormones or just Mind Games!!! Sure will post if have any question about Blood Work. Thanks.
How long did it last for you and what'd you do to get through it? First cycle was so bad Im afraid to do my second cycle
What happened with your first cycle, if you don't mind me asking?
Mainly during pct I think I had some bunk clomid or something, made me sick. Would get a racing heart rate and feeling faint during workouts. Very moody, stressed all of the time, bad anxiety. Just didn't feel like my normal self for months after, depressed, angry, etc
What was your PCT? nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 ?
Ya but I stooped the clomid. Madre me not even able to see without a cloud
Nolva made me a little sick, but it was acceptable.