-2 Please help with my estro blod readings (over 6500!!!!??)
First off my stats:
29 yrs old
204 lbs
5'11
Bf: around 9-9.5
Training for 7 years and (serious 3 yrs)
Currently running:
7 iu gh daily
100mg tren ace ed
1200 test e/prop ew
800eq ew
100var ed
100 proviron ed > both Orals started in the past 10 days post blood test
100mcg t4 ed
12.5mg aromasin ed
Tren was thrown in about 4 weeks ago
And had been running the test/eq for 8 weeks prior to starting every thing else.
I went to draw bloods 10 days ago and got some readings back this week finally. Everything was where it should be besides the estradiol levels. They came back at over 6500!!! I am holding a little water, nothing crazy and from time to time I adjust anti E accordingly to how I feel. Sometime nipples are puffy nothing out of the ordinary though. My libido is through the roof and I have plenty of energy. Not depressed at all. I have read that tren can cause a faulty reading for estro but this faulty?!! The lab who ran the test was labcorp which I've heard shitty things about lately but they said they even ran the test several times because it was such a phenomenal number!! My gh is good it's pharma so I'm ruling out hcgbestro rebound and my aromasin is some from a top ranked source for a long time until he got into some issues several months ago. And I've never had a problem with it. I had been on the tren for about 3 weeks before I went to draw bloods. What is going on!??? Can someone please help and enlighten or guide me on what to do? I'm not new to the boards or community just have been off for a while so I apologize in advance because I haven't been there lately to help or support others. Cycle history includes everything under the sun besides slin. EVERYTHING.
Thank you for any help
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Come on bro he doesn't need someone cosigning trt for life. Ugh this dude is a complete mess and goin to kill himself or hurt himself badly. Smh always somebody cosigning a horrible idea. He doesn't need steroids right now little lone trt. He's 200 pounds at six foot tall running over four grams a week.
Bullshit! I'm not cosigning anything, I'm giving thoughtful advice. He's probably fucked himself permanently anyway and will have to go TRT even if he tries a thorough PCT. What do you want me to say? You've been a bad boy and fried your nuts now just live the rest of your life with no test in your body. Or I could give the typical harmful answer of drop everything and pct, without any regard to what the person is using. I looked at what he was running and gave educated advice. If this guy has already chosen to pin for the rest of his life who am I to say otherwise?
That's not thoughtful advice telling someone to b trt bc he doesn't want to stop. If he has fucked himself up then he needs to be under a guidance of a doctor. At this point we don't know if has done permant damage. Let's push him towards pct and goin to an endo.if he chooses to never stop then that's on him and not the community this way.
Sorry to jump in, but the OP needs to see a doctor, not be told to handle it himself. His blood needs to be taken and a doctor needs to dorct him from there. He's shown he doesn't know what to do as far as aas use, so steering by guessing is not constructive help. I get you're trying to help, but this is beyond us.
LMFAO!........... Fucking fantastic post this that i wish had been posted earlier....... How many of the numbtsers that are reading this still believe that MORE GEAR IS BETTER after eyeballing this guys stats! what a fucking joke i cant stop laughing..... 4100mg of gear a shit ton of HGH and you still weigh less and have worse proportions than most hard training natural athletes...... lmfao while scratching my fat bollocks!............ 4100MG +HGH+T4 = 204lbs after 7yrs of training, 3 serious!!..... YOU ARE HAVING A FKN LAUGH............... thinking about making this a stickie about HOW NOT TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH AAS.
This is stickie material and your title is the right one. In one year, this is THE WORST I've ever seen.
Honest bro i am seriously doubting the fkn sanity around here lately........ if i wasn't a MOD and had other work to do around here i would seriously pack up and fuck off!.........." beyond help" is the thought of the day from me .. and it is becoming straining.
I had to take a break from posting it does get tiring.I could only imagine your job.just let these dumbasses weed them selves out of the gene pool. Need all your knowledge bro I look forward to your bits of wisdom u drop everyday. I don't get people who in there right mind could look at this and think this is the path to go down. I was speechless when I read this. Thanks to everyone on this post that tried to help keep up the good fight guys
don't speak to soon jesus gearhead the year isn't even over yet.
sounds like you have a false reading as others have said below. what I don't understand is all the gear you've ran in the past and the fuck load of things your running now. then when you factor in the height to weight ratio Christ im 5 inches shorter and weigh more was almost 202 natural. seems like you need some diet help as well no gear in the world trumps food. but anyways a false reading.
Yeah, like said below the Labcorp Roche Diagnostics ECLIA method for measuring estradiol gives a false reading on Tren - the blood needs to go to Quest, not Labcorp.
You are gonna get sick bro. You need to stop what you are doing. That's it from me.
I'll throw this in for ya:
Stop or face the music - and the tune is gonna be Toccata and Fugue in D minor by Johann Sebastian Bach.
I know a little about music and D minor is in fact the saddest key. Happiest may be C or E major
I'm sure you will recognize the composition then - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnuq9PXbywA
I had to pull out my calculator to get an exact count on what your taking per week: 4100 mg! Plus your blasting hgh. Let me guess, you left our your slin use and probably other dangerous compounds. I know folks warned you down below and you said:
The only suggestion and positive criticism is to get off. Choose health over destruction. How about that? The fact that you don't know the answer to this question, shows you should not be running tren or most of the compounds your currently running. Catalyst gave you the answer you're looking for, but it shouldn't give you any comfort. Folks here actually give a crap about peoples health and well-being and have decades of experience. Everyone is telling you that you're heading for disaster. Your false estro reading is literally the very least of your worries. Hope you actually take a minute to think and reevaluate your path.
Also, I just peeked at your stats: 5'11" and 204, and running 4 grams of gear a week. I don't think I've ever seen that large of a ratio between size and amount of gear. Wow!
good response brother.
I guess I suck at math cause I got 4200 lol.
Haha. It's okay buddy. I still like you. ;-)
No body is going to help you continue with the cycle you are on. Advice would be to PCT and recover if you still can, and then take a much simpler approach from now on.
you should know what's going on with your body by now.
Are you taking the piss with this cycle?
More and more gear and yet you don't have the experience to know why your bloods read the way they do
Can I please have some positive suggestions and or feedback? Instead of negative criticism?
"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things."
Winston Churchill
I'll take it from your response it's a genuine question then. Your answer can be easily found here but as you've been courteous I'll save you the bother. It's a false positive caused by the tren. You must realise that a guy that is prepared to run such a high amount of gear should have enough research behind to understand this. It worries me you haven't looked more thoroughly.
Sleep easier knowing it's BS estro readings, but seriously mate, reevaluate your approach to cycling before things go wrong for you.
Thank you for your honesty. and I have had plenty of blood test ran in the past. I used my family docs office this time and didn't know where they sent my bloods to get tested at. Any other time I've ran tren and other gear and taken bloods my estrogen has been 35-60 and I adjust accordingly. I talked to the doc office morning and they said they sent it out to labcorp. Which from what I have been reading they use a differnent type of test that is not estro sensitive. So I'm assuming like you said the tren is throwing the test they used off.
I had an answer here for you but after reading this quote from you I deleted it. But i will say this although your estradiol is a false high reading at 6500 that does not mean it is not high and in range because it surely is not. It's just not 6500.
That's a fuck ton of gear homie and there is absolutely no synergy going on. The only positive I can find in this is that most likely your Estrogen is not actually that high. Use the search function and look for false high estrogen readings while running tren. It has been covered many times.
What is your suggestions
I suggest you first research why that estrogen reading is so high then come back and discuss with everyone. Then people will probably touch on the rest of the cycle.
I only plan on running my Orals for a total of 6 weeks in order to get down under 7%. Which I guess theoretically is my new goal for this cycle. The gh I'm blasting right now but will lower dose to 2-3iu after blast is over.
Holy shit what a terrible cycle. What the hell are you doing running over 4000mgs worth of gear. Nobody needs even half that much and your only 200lbs. And that's not including your t4, aromasin and gh. Wtf man. This is so bad I don't even knkw whah to say I'm in shock. Training seriously for 3 years and running more steroids then someone competing for mr olympia.
What is your auggestion
RustyhookerYour cycle layout is garbage. Who suggested all that crap. Full bloat with cut with every drug in your drawer. You research at all? Goals?
Well yea I guess I left out some info...
I decided against my
Original cycle which was only going to be test and eq with a small run of tren. Originally my plans were to bulk all summer long. That changed a few weeks ago and I failed to
Mention I am
Cutting out the test e which I'm running at 800mg ew. The prop I'm hitting 100mg eod but will increase to 100ed as I am letting the longer estered test leave my system. I blast and cruise year round. Currently, I am blastjng. I appreciate yours and anyone's concerns but I am set in my own ways as it is my body. I really would appreciate some help with the estro reading
RustyhookerBlast and cruise at your age and ONLY 204lbs.
You got more problems going on than just false estro readings.
I've been blasting and cruising for the past 7'months. I didn't say I have been for the duration of my training. Can ANYONE please help with my ESTRADIOL reading from my bloods. I would just appreciate some input for the question i am seeking answers for. Nothing else. Although your advice and anyone's advice is appreciated and doesn't fall in dead ears
RustyhookerYou clearly came on to "hear" unicorns singing and angels weeping. Not gonna happen here. Not from me. Your gear choice sucks badly. Garbage. But youll probably "hear" something like that dumb lil 200lb midget running less than a gram can't tell me how to live.
Adios amigo