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OK, I know this will do little good to help our newb situation but let me say it anyway! I don't mind so much when newbs come in and ask a bunch of questions asking personal advice and forget stats etc. Well, I don't mind as much as when they get pissy when you ask them for it! You hear , "I'm going to do what I'm going to do" or "I'm mature for 20" or "I know what I'm doing".
Thats all fine and dandy but think about what you are doing. You are asking for actual advice with very powerful drugs and while many of us have personal experience we are not endocrinologists. So you can see the importance of having your endo have every bit of information they can get before they give you powerful drugs right? That means its more important that we get your specific situation laid out to the best of your ability because we're working off of less education by and large than someone who has gone to school for years for this.
Now, having said all that, I will give a lot of people here a pat on the back because so often the personal experience that almost always includes failures is more powerful than a general practitioner that has very little education when talking about hormone replacement and certainly when talking about running cycles on someone with perfectly normal hormone levels. I have seen a lot of Doc advice when at the GP level that seems horrible..."Test cyp every 3 weeks"? "You need estrogen treatments on steroids even though your estrogen is already high", AI is not needed ever", "your 120 free test level is perfectly normal for your age"...this goes on for hours but at least some are trying theses days which is a start.
Reason for this post is simple, you would never get Doc to call you out a script for anything if you have never been a patient of his or hers or if you had not seen him in years or with self diagnosis i n your garage with a test kit you got on ebay as your source of diagnosis right? So the same is true or important here if not more important...we need to know stats, bf%, estrogen levels if you have them, free test levels if you have them, AGE, cycle history. Anything you can offer for the guys and grrrl's in and out of the know to help you "SPECIFICALLY". Its not general info when you want to take powerful drugs, we need to get rid of the GNC mentallity and quit minimizing the potential that this is Deadly in the wrong hands. Serious shit, not creatine which btw can also cause you to need amputations if abused and its perfectly legal available right there in WalMart. It should be legal but remember, if you are dumb enough to take personal recomendations about powerful drugs having given absolutely no information about yourself...THATS YOUR PROBLEM! YOU OWN THAT AS YOU SHOULD.
There are a lot of good people here but the advice is free and sometimes its worth exactly what you paid for it. Give your personal information, confirm advice 100 times and then reconfirm it through many opinions and be as safe as you can. Better health is kind of the whole goal right? Btw...to get pissy and get your scooby doo's all bunched up at someone trying to help you is kinda BS anyway right? You're not paying anyone for help and they sure don't benefit in any way other than it feels good to help people so if you don't like the advice don't use it.
Many times where the frustrations come from is that a newb is not really looking for advice at all, he is simply looking for someone to confirm his bad decision. That might make you feel good about having someone to blame when you screw up but again, this is on you. It won't matter to me if you had great advice here by 10 people and it goes bad, you are responsible for you once you walk in this door and if your big panties don't fit yet you might just set on the sidelines and wait until they do..... thats not my concern.

wallabokkie's picture

You have touched on something that had frustrated me almost to the point of no longer coming on this board again. I am far from an expert in a few things like HGH and peptides, however I know a fair bit about AAS and a shit tin more about training. I am not saying I know it all but after over 23 years of sweating my ass off in the gym I should know a bit. To pass on assitence to some one and they totally turn their back on it was what had driven me to that point. I have heaps to offer people on this site as well as learn off other on this site. Guys if you don't want to hear the truth then don't ask the question. If you are wanting validation for a poor decision as Tread has said then you won't get it from me. People need to sift through the crap. Now there is a bit of crap advice here nowa days unfortunately. This has also lead to my frustration. People read some poor advice without knowing and pass it on as good advice. As you said Tread verify it 100 times and do it again. Don't just take it as the way it should be done. Big muscles are not worth your health guys just remember that.

vocor's picture

"he is simply looking for someone to confirm his bad decision" and that's so different from asking for advice or help.
The good thing here is most folks are actually trying to find out "why" someone is doing a cycle, not just saying "do this and this".
Good post. AAS and drugs are NOT a substitute for commitment, discipline, hard work, or god forbid, common sense. How one can think you can make radical changes to your body without the potential for radical consequences is beyond me.
Actually, it isn't beyond me, but we can't condone AAS use in that case.

Gorillafit's picture

Maybe we could start a page for people who just wouldn't listen.
It could have pictures of bitch tits cause they wouldn't buy arimidex cause it was too expensive. Shots of little tiny testes cause their buddy at the gym said they don't need PCT at their age, or on their first cycle, or unless you really do a lot.
Maybe police mug shots cause they wouldn't believe 250mg TrenE eod was too much!
It wouldn't work though, nobody ever wants to admit they were wrong

popeboy1's picture

scooby doo's? WTF tread, why dont you just tell everybody!!! Them fat chics loved my scoobys and plus it was laundry day and my mighty mouse whitey tightys were dirty!!!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Nice and absolutly true,well laid down by our well established guruilla.
I read that twice and very slow to fully digest what you are laying down here i fully agree with the frustration aspect some fuckers just do not or choose not to listen to good solid tried and tested advice and makes me wonder why they asked in the first place.
I hope i am wrong but i can forsee certain good knowlegable members quitting giving ANY advice in the future because of the fear of becoming THE WHIPPING BOY.
I hope this dosent happen because it could compromise the integrity of eroids,
in the mean time i suppose we just have to PUT UP with i am 16 and know it all man types.
OK fuck it lets get back to real AAS business (LOL):)

Gorillafit's picture

Go Tread, Go Tread, you the man, as always.

It just doesn't look the same in type as it sounded when I was chanting it. LOL

Gorillafit's picture

Sweet! Now I have Tread and Grrrrl with visions of me dancing in their heads. LOL ;-P
Oh yeah, giggity giggity.

Greg's picture

Stands to applause; tears welling in his eyes

Bravo! Bravo!

tosses a rose to the old silver back.

No Homo