posted Mon, 07/09/2012 - 14:01
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Sory to be so blunt here but i have questions. I understand that some liquid oral suspensions like Amoxacillin can be given in the rectum, it can be more efective from what i gather. I just got in some liquid anavar the other day and was researching proper storage, shelf life, and administration. I know its not practical but what do you guys think. Should i bust out the turkey baster?
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Sure would look weird if the relatives showed to check on you, and there you lye face down ass up; with a syringe out the old butt-hole.
Passed out from the sudden rush of dbol anavar tbol or what ever.
AnonDoes that happen? Do people sometimes just pass out from taking AAS?
I dont store anything in my ass, exit only.
ur right tho. When stuff absorbs thru rectum u bypass liver for immediate intake in blood. This means the toxins the liver normally filter out are present in blood stream possibly giving side effects not normally associated. And your kidneys do all the work. Personally I wouldn't do it. It comes for oral administration from the dr. if prescribed, if it worked better common sense tells me it come in supository form?
AnonYeah initially it might partially bypass the liver, however as discussed earlier it's doubtful enough of it decays fast enough to make a difference and all your blood eventually runs through the liver.
Yes, and young kids are shoving tampoons dipped in everclear up their asses to get fucked up in school, and because they cant handle the taste.
Maybe a source here can offer advice on why they dont carry a homo line, I mean anal line of products.
Try it and create a cycle log for us, it is like smut meets steriods. Somehow I feel as if the steriods are the ones being abused.
Be sure and give details, lenght and girth, color of the baster so tread can calculate the proper lenght you need for acceptable penetration and maximum dosage.
Nohomo, and good luck.
AnonIf you really did want to try it you'd use an enema not a baster.
A few of my buddies swear by coffee enemas once a week. Says they make you feel so amazing and are so good for you.
I don't know if I could bring myself to shove a tube up my ass though. Might try it someday. Not toady though.
Maybe you misunderstood my post, "nohomo" I do not advocate or condone anyone shoving stuff up their asses. However it someone like the OP decided to, I would use it as amusement only. Not scaried of the idea, just not a homo bro.
AnonYeah I know. I'm just giving ya crap. It's kinda my nature.
For the most part since 90% of guys are straight I just assume everyone is hetero.
CleyonI'd stop hanging out with people who brag about shoving stuff up their poo-hole... at least men who do!
AnonWhy? I'm secure in my sexuality. While I don't have a girlfriend anymore I recently had one and I'm in no way homosexual.
Anal is just another route to intake nutrients. Anyone scared of sticking something up their bum to me just seems like they're scared they'll like it.
Personally I don't know if the benefits outway the discomfort I'd experience from it, but maybe I'll try it some day.
CleyonThere is a difference between being "scared" of something, and looking for a reason to do something. I'm old enough that I've had a Colonoscopy, and I am in no danger of getting excited about something going "in the out door". If that's what you're into, that's fine, but this whole thread seems like a twisted joke.
AnonWell I don't actually know. Maybe they are gay. Or closet gay.
I'm not really homophobic so that really doesn't matter to me anyway.
I also had to get a colonoscopy done, but I was out for it and really didn't feel anything. Mine was done because my brother had Crohn's disease and was lactose intolerant and since those are genetic they wanted to check me.
My wife pokes me in the butt....
With syringes, ironically we both get pleasure from it.
CleyonI'm not hating on anyone, I had a gay room mate for three years. I wasn't worried about getting "infected" or anything. I'm just giving you a load of crap for the coffee enema thing. The bastards gave me a local for mine, and I swear it was about as powerful as children's Tylenol, I was sore and walking funny afterwards.
AnonYeah I know you're just giving me crap I do the same thing. I'm not trying to be hostile either.
Sucks about the local anesthetic, I understand about the walking funny thing. While I was out for it the aftereffects were still there to show me that the gastroenterologist actually did his job. Thank god I turned up negative for lactose intolerance too. I love me some milk.
Not looking forward to prostate exams in the years to come. My grandmother used a rectal thermometer on me when I was like 5 and I still have nightmares (okay not really but it's not a pleasant memory).
CleyonAt least you didn't have to be awake for it. I feel like I've lived through the prison rape scene in The Shawshank Redemption.
tread-mLmao...I'm sure I have a formula for that here somewhere, I don't see it in the no homo files though! Vike did say somewhere the other day that he keeps 80 brams of protein in his scrotum for a backup, sounds like a viable process for application?
CleyonThis just sounds like an excuse to take "the road less traveled"!
IronCladdVolume 1 "in stores now"....lol
Sorry guys, I had to pop in here, couldnt resist!
No mate, use it orally....
And Dont be upset if no-one comes round to your house for turkey anymore haha.
AnonDetective guy: We found 9 people dead on his floor from dysentery after eating his turkey...
CSI guy: Looks like his turkey...
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(¬■_■): Tasted like shit.
YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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IronCladdOrals and Assholes? lol. Bro are you ok?
HOLY SHIT!!!! This whole topic just goes seamlessly with your handle....HAHAHA, LMFAO!!!!! Turkey baster....HA!!!!
Anon"A drug that is administered rectally will in general (depending on the drug) have a faster onset, higher bioavailability, shorter peak, and shorter duration than the oral route."
"In addition the rectal route bypasses around two thirds of the first-pass metabolism as the rectum's venous drainage is two thirds systemic (middle and inferior rectal vein) and one third portal (superior rectal vein). This means the drug will reach the circulatory system with significantly less alteration and in greater concentrations[Note 3]."
Sublingual administration would be a better idea. Just hold the substance under your tounge for a minute or two then swallow it. Sublingual route is fine for anavar.
"Many pharmaceuticals are designed for sublingual administration, including cardiovascular drugs, steroids, barbiturates, enzymes, and increasingly, vitamins and minerals."
If you're tripping over wasted anavar or getting the most bang for your buck, dont forget that "more than a third of the compound (anavar) is still intact when excreted in the urine." So what I am saying is, if youre gonna focus on being thrifty with anavar, then start by drinking your urine before you start debating putting things in your ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectal_(medicine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_administration
http://www.steroidology.com/anavar-oxandrolone/
Supernova283That actually might be a great idea. Enemas have been known to bypass the liver. No liver no liver toxicity.
Although if there is any toxicity that the liver filters out then you'd be getting those throughout your body instead of your liver.
So.......yes it goes thru liver........absorption however will be direct thru the colon.
Supernova283No enemas have been known to bypass the liver entirely. Although most of the time there is partial absorption to the hepatic vein which goes through the liver.
If it's a 17aa.....it's still going to be an issue on the liver.
Supernova283Why? if it doesn't go through the liver it shouldn't hurt the liver in any way.
Obviously there is going to be at least some of it that goes through the liver, but a lot of it won't.
How would it hurt the liver? I'm not getting it.
Basically an easy way to state it is that EVERYTHING is filtered thru your liver regardless of the route of absorption. The liver is one of your body's waste treatment facilitators, like your kidneys.
Exactly! All blood goes thru liver regardless. I personally find it quite alarming lately that I'm seeing folks put down oral dbol anf Winny tabs as being hazardous AND actually claim the injectables or these new "tasty liquids" are safe.
Uhh...hmmm, yeah the new "tasty liquids" MIGHT be a lil' easier on your liver, BUT I really don't see MUCH of a difference. The way I understand it, and I am certainly not a chemist, BUT from what I can tell, the new liquids are just the 'dissolved' orals suspended in some kind of alcohol substrate...if that makes any sense in layman's terms.
dbol...winny...var etc. Alkylated to make passes thru liver before complete break down. Difference is the carrier. Tablet, capsule, aqueous, or oil. Theyre all toxic to the liver. And yes, resellers have purported on their site how safe it is simply because its now in oil or the new tasty dishes.
So im really not trying to push education too much but folks are reporting on manyy forums here that its absolutely safe now because its in new liquid form
Supernova283I would definitely not call it a substrate. I hardly think it has enzyme activity.
I would call it a solvent.
Ahh, yes!!!...solvent! That's the word....I was trying to sound smarter than I really am....said I was 'no chemist'...LOL!!!!
Supernova283Yeah very very different words, but hey now you know. And if you can remember you can sound smarter later.
Supernova283Oh true. Disposal of it would be processed through the liver. You'd get the benefit of a lot of it not initially going through the liver though.
Yes, sorta true...'fast' makes a good point though in that ALL your blood eventually gets ran thru your liver...and kidneys for that matter
Do you realize that every single drop of your blood passes thru your liver ?
Supernova283Yeah eventually. For some reason I was stuck on the whole initial absorption and totally forgot that the orals wouldn't aromatize into something less liver toxic after a while.
Then again I don't actually know. Maybe they do.
You're statement of absorption is correct. In anat/physiology we gotta trace single blood drops thru entire system. Dbol and wonstrol is 17aa so it passes thru before breakdown and removal. Carbon on that 17th ring is its protective shield. That 17th carbon is also why its hepatoxic. Lets not forget anavar as well...
Supernova283That 17th carbon is not why it's hepatoxic. The methyl group attached to the 17th carbon is the reason it's hepatoxic.
At least that's what I've been told and what makes sense. No reason that the carbon itself is doing much damage. It's just an sp3 hybridized carbon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methandrostenolone
http://www.faqs.org/health/Body-by-Design-V1/The-Cardiovascular-System-W...
Supernova283Why is there no stereochemistry on the 17 methyl group?
Doesn't make much sense.
Can see it now. Beer bong loaded with liquid orals to the corn hole Jackass style.
LMFAO. Try it and let us know how it goes. I bet the pumps are sick!
Are you serious about rectal route of administration?
I done that with an E pill once, I thought I was in disneyland lol but my ass was burning..
Lol
Those newer liquids have high alcohol contents. Couple days of that and you'll know what your asshole was made for!
Sublingual should be just fine bro! LOL
Booty bumping your gear is a little too much. I believe if you are looking to maximize your gear's potential, then hold under tongue for a while before swallowing. (little homo) LOL