posted Sat, 09/21/2013 - 08:32
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Opinions on ED vs EOD Pinning of Prop
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So is EOD for pussies or is EOD still going to keep your levels plenty stable?
Next cycle is going to be first go with short ester. I know ED would be ideal, but EOD pins already seems shitty enough.
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Pinning everyday is part of the game brother
again .. I say what is wrong with pussies?
Darron614Nothing at all! They are a magnificent thing.
ED requires a good site rotation. You will need more than just delts glutes and Quads to avoid hitting same muscle to frequently.
ED = cycle
EOD = kick/taper
my .02
Stability = results & less sides! Don't fuck around and risk spikes and dips in levels (yes even at eod you can spike). Go Every day with prop.
Darron614Looks like I need to throw out the 22g pins and pick up some 25g huh? I can't do 22g every day.
I use 27g in the small muscles (delts/tris) and a 25 everywhere else
ClassyChassisReading through the comments I see you've decided on EOD, and that's fine. Just throwing out that every 36 hours is also an option. Ex: Sun AM, Mon PM, Wed AM, Thurs PM, Sat AM, etc.
Darron61475 mg every 36 hours then? I haven't really decided exactly what I'm gonna do yet. I have a while before my next cycle and I'm still making good gains so no rush.
ClassyChassisIf you were debating between 50mg ED or 100mg EOD, then yes, 75mg every 36 hours. To me, 36 hours is a nice compromise and it's the option I would suggest in the case of someone not wanting to pin ED. It's still within a reasonable window in terms of half-life.
BigpapajuiceIMO I have always been able to keep my test levels more stable on ED injections with prop rather than EOD. I have tried both ways, the only reason I like the ED method is TEST PROP has a very short ester it peaks around 24 hours or so then goes on the decline so that's why I like ED method
RustyhookerHere's a good read....
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/giving-out-inform...
Darron614Stats and cycle history are in my profile bro. I don't want cycle advice. I want to know how people feel about ED vs EOD injections and their personal experiences.
RustyhookerStats? Priors? Proposed cycle?
Darron614I don't want this to turn into a thread about my cycle. Just want opinions on stability of Test levels with ED or EOD injections of Prop. But I respect you so I will play along
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5'9"
160 lbs
5.5% bf (electronic and caliper verified)
Probably going to run 8 to 10 weeks of Prop 100 mg EOD with Aromasin 8.33 mg ED. Then adding in Var last 6 weeks at 60 mg ED.
Only prior cycle was standard Test E for 12 weeks.
RustyhookerPlay along? like we're a bunch of clowns here simply to amuse you? Paddy cakes and hide n go seek?
Whats your goals? Why aren't you maxed out first? Prop is dead in 48hrs. Why running a cutter?
The play along game of hormones can be a permanent play game.
Darron614I didn't mean it like that..... I should have said "I'll answer your questions". But like I said I don't want this to be a thread about my cycle.
I'm competing in physique in the coming months, so I'm just trying to put on pure lean muscle. Won't be starting my cycle until I am closer to 170 lbs because I am making good gains right now naturally.
RustyhookerFor free advice...im never gonna dig someones files. Ever. Gym trainers make over $100/hr here to dig and research. Our time is worth more than that...especially when free. All folks..me included...need pist stats/priors. Noone goes to auto dealer to fix the clunketty clunk without bringing all the cars info.
Eod or Ed pins are up to you on a basic prop cycle. Some prop sucks so eod is preferred to avoid pip. As long as you are on time you wont have fluctuations
Darron614I understand completely man. Sorry if I came off disrespectful. As long as my levels will be stable I would really prefer EOD. Thank you.
RustyhookerIve done well on eod with prop. And it can be easier. Right now I'm on Ed prop pins and "feel" same as eod. A low pip prop will make it easy regardless. Fluctuations usually cause the pimples etc...so just be timely. You'll do great! Good luck in comp! Damn exciting for sure!
That's the main benefit people report from ed pinning, less acne problems. Eod isn't a problem.
Darron614Yeah I got a decent bit of acne when I used Enanthate and I think it was mostly due to fluctuations. That is another reason I wanted to give Prop a try. I have only pinned my glutes though so I am going to have to try a few new spots this time. And thanks a lot bro I'm pretty psyched about it!
RustyhookerGood prop is fun! I'm oddball but you'll ger used to being sore. It hits hard/fast. Grow and recover. Condensed version of long Esters. When you've run quite a few cycles you know how test reacts with you and you can manipulate. Test base high...switch in different shorts...drop low for dryout....swirch to meet how you react at that time. Some cycles the body stalls so you manipulate foid and rest. Others (advanced)...you manipulate the whole enchilada. Changing carbs alone changes mass/pumps...so if you know youe foods and chems then you can do a lot. Simple is always my favorite....eat and grow. Bur sometimes a lill body trickery goes a long way. Cycles are fairly easy. It's foods that are the hardest. Think of competitors. They got the same input you do. Mapped out etc. That dryness and fullness comes outta the kitchen. When to high carb. Liw carb. Keto or not. Then the world gets as complex or simple as knowing yourself.....