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OESTRADIOL / E2

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What is a good range of OESTRADIOL / E2 to be in and how / what is my protocol if I am out of this range? Aromasin and dosages explained please

Jockstrap's picture

E2 is up over normal and prolactin is going to make milky titties. Get both in check

Lewisjones354's picture

Any tips on how to do this? P5P for prolactin? And reduce test with more frequent pinning to reduce E2?

Aggieguy's picture

Take anastrozole and Caber

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Jockstrap's picture

Pinning more often is a hoax as e2 control. Ai bro...cmon now before you look like youre gonna breastfeed.

your last forum....thats a cycle. Not trt.

Milfpounder's picture

Back in highschool circa 2004 or so when prohormones were all the rage had a buddy take a bunch of god knows what and came to school leaking milk hahahaha. Poor guy. Can you believe there was a time you could buy prohormones at (that one place in the mall starts with a G)

Jockstrap's picture

Funny one was the first gen pros worked as long as you also took your pro ai. Later gens 2nd on became garbage.

MountainMan27's picture

Shout out to Epistane. Ran it for 8 weeks no test base. Got super shredded. Was shutdown for months. Got super depressed. Good Times. Thanks Brent from Max Muscle.

Milfpounder's picture

That's funny there's a place in my neck of the woods called something very similar that deals in "almost" steroids. Owner just got arrested for selling bunk glp -1 that almost killed a couple people.

irongame427's picture

I hate when labs use different units of measurement. Where I’m at they all use pg/ml for Estradoil. Converting yours to that puts you at 51pg/ml, which imo is a good place to be at while on high doses of test, assuming you’re on cycle? As long as you aren’t experiencing symptoms of high estrogen I wouldn’t add in an Ai or anything.

Black90tsi's picture

I'd guess he isn't in the states.

Lewisjones354's picture

In the UK

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Steering more towards TRT but might have gone a little over board with doses -- only side effects is my libido is pretty low and struggling to maintain downstairs this might be due to high prolactin levels though which I’m currently trying to combat with vitamin B6 - P5P I’m not sure if or how OESTRADIOL and PROLACTIN correspond?

irongame427's picture

Your estrogen is currently 5% of your test, which is pretty much ideal. Although all of us are different in terms of sensitivity to estrogen. I wouldnt think your estrogen being at 51pg/ml would kill sex drive and give your ED, but it’s possible you’re very sensitive to it. Your high prolactin levels are much more likely to be the cause, or it’s a combination of both. Hopefully the b6 will get you back in normal range. But you should also try lowering your estrogen levels. That’s likely contributing to your high prolactin. Aromasin is quite strong so start low. I’d probably go with like 6.25mg twice a week. Repull bloods after 2 full weeks on aromasin.

IMO sust is bad choice for TRT unless you’re willing to dose every day or at most EOD. Even then I still think it’s less than ideal. Test E or C are a better choice.

DieselSemi's picture

Drop the test dose slightly and see how things go. 51 is t terrible but probably a bit high for TRT

Lewisjones354's picture

Cheers, going to try sus250 at .3ml every 3 days rather than .5ml every 4days see if that helps

Milfpounder's picture

You need to pin sust every day or every other day at the least because of the prop ester. If you aren't willing to pin that often consider using cypionate or Enanthate.

Lewisjones354's picture

I have cyp200 but felt my mood was very flat line is this normal?

Milfpounder's picture

I use cypionate and I've never had any sides like that. Never have used sust so can't speak to its effects. It takes quite a while for test levels to stabilize in ur bloodstream regardless of what ester you're using. the more stable ur levels, the less sides ur going to have. i think cypionate and Enanthate are much more common in the trt world.

I would try to come up with a plan and try to stick with it. Don't make knee jerk reactions and add and subtract gear on a whim. Try to understand what your about to take and that effect it will have before you take it. Then make changes based on blood work.

If you are spending 90% of your day researching gear, and protocols and worrying about your limp cock, that doesn't leave a lot of time for meal prep and lifting. So try to keep it simple.

DieselSemi's picture

I highly doubt your problem is related to testosterone levels. More than likely your prolactin and possibly E2.

Milfpounder's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong, but "deca dick" is caused by high prolactin right?

Aggieguy's picture

I believe that is correct man. I take caber and it solves that issue.

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