NIGHT SWEATS FROM LIXUS PROPIONATE???
Ok let me start off by saying i've used my fair share of different brands of prop from quite a few different labs, I just got off a cruising cycle and noticed while I was cruising I was getting the night sweats beyond explaination. I have even posted a link somewhere on here a while back about it. I am a little confused because I have heard about tren giving you the night sweats but never the test prop. I have read countless remarks on the Lixus Prop not really having any PIP and the the only time I noticed me having any kind of injection pain at all is when I broadened my injection sites from a 4 point to a 6 point my glutes being the new addition. It made my butte cheeks very very tender but this only lasted for about two weeks and then there was no more PIP at all. I had never injected my glutes until my recent cruise recovery and is now just a part of my process. I had a newby pm me just a little while ago who I have been helping with his 1st oils cycle. He is kick starting with the Lixus test prop, it is like his 3rd day in and he asked me about having night sweats as a side affect to the prop. This immediately raised a flag with me and I am really curious if anyone else is having this same side affect. I am not making any accusations by no means and if I'm learning something new then thats just one more thing I've been educated on but Im wondering if Lixus could have mis labeled some vials of Tren with test prop labels? I am aware of tren being a darker color than prop, ive never used tren and have no desire to lol, Does any of the tren come in a simalar color as the other test oils? Maybe I can get some of the more experienced vets to comment on this. I am completely confused and maybe its just me not knowing what the hell im talking about although I would say with test prop I am an experienced user, ive just never heard of test prop causing night sweats. I need some advice so the threads open for discussion.
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I had sweats for a couple weeks when I began the prop my first time. Not so much now...now I think like TM suggested I have leveled out and my body is accustomed to it and has found a state of equilibrium. I don't have the semi anymore either...which kinda sucks. My wife said something about me walking around like a peacock there for a while. :?
I still only sleep with a sheet only and the fan on low and Temp at around 70F.
I think it kicks your metabolism up when you begin the Prop...
beavisBro, I get it pretty bad from cyp and enant all the time. Every cycle and that's only running one or the other with d- bol or var. No other injectable compounds
Beavis am I glad you posted this. I have been using Test Cyp and E as my Test replacement therapy ( I'm 47) . .I can get the worst sweats imagineable- esp at night . .sometimes mid aft . .and since using Var ( summer's coming yeah ?) . .just wanted to say glad I am not alone here ;)
Cheers man
tread-mPope, as far as you're concerned nigbt sweats would not be uncommon with prop and as a blast and cruise person sjuch as I am your random erections will slowly go away to some degree. You will still have times where it happens for 2 or 3 days but then it goes back to balance. I "think" what happens is that we become accustomed to a certain hormone level and there is some balance that comes in to play. I have times where I night sweat and sometimes on rare occasion just as you said, wake up and the sheets are soaked. That too is once in a while although my body's furnace is turned up at all times as TX said. Sleep with a sheet in a very cool house and when I am somewhere that everyone seems to be cold I am just fine. My concern would be if you started a new label and you knew the old brand to be good and the new one was an over night change. I have that once in a while and when I do I change brands first chance knowing something is not right. Taking tren at the levels you run prop is something you would know fairly quick depending on ester. KMC had a similar issue and I think his may well have been tren but I kinda doubt yours is just based on your description and particularly that the only sign is the night sweating. As to the newb, his experience will be pretty different than yours given the amount of time you have been on and honestly I dont even remember my early signs its been so long ago. I do remember breaking a lot of shit THAT I PAID FOR!! LOL . Well, now that I think about it even some shit others paid for...I would say get another label and run it and see if everything remains the same over 2 weeks, if so then I would say finsih your other label and if not chunk it and stick with the new. We really never know whats in these bottles and to be suspicious is a good thing even if we trust the supplier or the lab, mistakes happen.
Thanks homie for the insight, It just had mind in a toboggle because this had never happened to me when I ran other brands of prop, Whats strange is when I started my cruise I never got the erections and now that ive started the test e I am getting more frequently erections.
Color: TrenA tends to be darker, TrenE lighter to almost clear, Finaplex??? depends on who made it.
How long have you been on this new vial?
Sleepless, nightmare,.....more than usual?? Are you presently taking any Test E or Cyp for your TRT, besides the questionable Prop?
I had this problem during my cruise cycle, the only thing that really woke me up at night was the hard core sweating, I am running enanthate now and have been off the prop for around 2 weeks. I ran 2 different vials for aproximately 8 weeks during my cruise. I never used tren before, I just know Ive read from time to time night sweats being assoiciated with tren
Probably just a slightly different mix on a batch of Prop, you never know, Lixus maybe under new ownership, I don't know for certain, but a lot of signs point that way or it could be that Lixus's powder source screwed them, I don't think to many UGL have their own HPLC/Mass Spec machine.
If, it was Tren, you would know it, it has a way of bending your mind, at least the unwanted sample I got. :-(
Correct me if im wrong but lixus is a rather large company, before i ever got into the black market side of AAS or even the online market for that matter I had heard of Lixus labs. The black market is a rather new thing for me as my source i had when I originally started using test was prescribed cypionate and I was clueless to how big the black market actually was. I do wonder from time to time about Lixus labs sometimes just putting what ever in a vial and labeling it, although you would think as good as a name and how much money they make they would be very alert on quality of their gear being up to par as they wouldnt want to make a bad name for them selves. Especially as successful they must be, how long has this company been around does anyone know? I have always been quite impressed on the quality of their gear and never reall y had any complaints as im not really complaining now just would like others input. Like i said i did maintain my strength and weight during my cruise, my appetite wasnt has propinate as what it was when i was blasting with the cyp and deca but that was to be expected. It didnt fall off by no means but that damn deca made me hungry as a mofo. I am around week 3 back blasting with enanthate and deca and I can already see my appetite picking back up as i stay hungry as hell at work. I eat an ass load of peanut butter and cheese sandwichs (bite me I think their good as hell lol) at work and Ive just started adding more to my diet this week as my usually breakfast at 6am in 3 packs of peaches and cream oat meal and orange juice which ive now added 2 boiled eggs and a glass of milk. I get hungrier through out the day at work and fullfill my craving as soon as they hit. sorry you guys i took 2 aderal earlier and i cant stop myself from typing, fuck it i had something to say lol, anyways if this is normal for the prop to do this than Ill take you guys word for it hell I just had to ask. ;)
If there is a large ligit company named Lixus Labs, I kinda doubt there connected to Lixus Labs,Austria the steroid UGL. I would think Lixus Labs,Austria is just playing off their name to make money, just like the 4 people/companies that are using the name British Dragon while the real BD has been defunct for almost 10 years. Just look at all the similar names in source here, next week someone will open up a shop call Abolic-Body.web, to try and cash in on someone elses success.
As for the switched label issue, it could simply be a lab worker dumpster diving for vial filling machine product change over vials that were discarded and palming them for real ones when no one is looking. There is no sense of economic reasoning in filling vials with Tren E and label them as a cheaper Test Prop.
The 2 vials I got of Lixus were perfect on the outside, I just had a major issue that the contents didn't match the label. Before trying Lixus I had used another labs Test Cyp, the difference between Test Cyp and Test E should be minimal to unnoticable, the Test Prop in one of the mislabeled vials was fairly easy to ID, the Tren E took a couple weeks longer. :-(
Wow, I did not know that, I have pictured all this time Lixus being one big company that was basically ruling the UGL world, but even so its still a popular name, I know people tend to get greedy but wouldnt it just make more sence to have some kind of quality control system as if they were FDA approved, wouldnt that really make them more money in the long run? I know there are alot of small UGL's out there have no concerns about being a successful buisness, but this is suppose to be a good name in our world. I guess im just doing alot of wishful thinking but it just makes better sence to be legit about it if you want a thriving buisness.
Sadly for us,......thriving in business means making more money and cutting corners to curb expendtures, no UGL counts on 100% satifaction, 85-90% would be an extremely high number, after all, most of their competition is cruising at just over 50%, and if the ulg screws up now and then it is normally the source/retailer taking the hit, (just ask NG). Like sources, ULG's are designed to come and go.
As for Lixus, several things worked in their favor recently, ie: the Naps Shipping Issue, The Muscle-Bear bust to name a few but other things worked agains't them also, ie: the crack down leading up to London 2012, demand out stripping their supply chain etc. With all the news that has come out about Lixus in the last month and the departuring of "R" as what appeared to be their largest retailer, one could sepeculate on several possible reasons.
thanks man, got alot of helpful info off this, I guess being a customer, I look at the way they do buisnes completely different then what they do, I would rather know all my gear is of the best quality and maybe just charge a little more as the name would speak for itself, it all comes down to greed but im just the man buying the goods
As a wise Guru once told me,...............the average Juicehead is too busy trying to receive a delivery, to actually notice the game within the game within the game.
YMMV
AnonI think Gothics post on tren pretty much summed up the worst of the sides..
OE2000I've also experienced this with several brands of prop. Night sweats, insomnia, rapid resting heartbeat, horrible/painful acne. I stay away from it now, stick with Cypionate.
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TxBigBoyIdk if this is even near the same thing but ever since I started my cycle over 12 weeks ago I can't sleep with a blanket or I sweat. I was on Prop for awhile and just finished up with test e. Its weird cause its about 50 degrees outside and I have just a sheet and a fan going all night.
Ive ran a home-brew solo test prop cycle and had some pretty serious night sweats... It could just be an effect that some people are prone too? Never ran tren so I couldn't compare but I can say the night sweats had to come from the prop. Though they got less serious after I got the prop flu.
thats the part that has me confused because Ive run GOOD test prop before and have never had night sweats, in fact I have ran some earlier this year that I was really impressed with so maybe you can undersatnd why Im concerned. as I told KMC I didnt have any of the prop like side affects, I did have some strength gains but I dont recall having any random erections.
Not sure if this will help but recently while running 500mgs of Cyp a week I can go outside with no shirt on and its freaking 45. The only part of me that notices is my nipples which I kinda like they get all hard and shit lol!! Nah but I feel like a freaking caveman/polar bear while on test thats just me. I did have rapid heartbeat but upped the cardio and cutback on salt and it went away.
AnonIf I recall correctly when gothic upped his dosage of testim he got night sweats. It wasn't anything like the sweats he got using tren but night sweats none the less.
I was running at the time 100mg's eod of the lixus prop, it was just light or mild night sweats, I was waking up in the middle of the night sweating so bad it looked like i had pissed the bed, I would have to get up and get a towel to wipe myself down and i eventually started sleeping on a towel at night.
AnonThat is some sweating.. did you ease the dosage back at all to see if that reduced the sweating?
I have been off the lixus prop for about 2 weeks now and I am not having the issues any more, I ran 2 vials of the prop and had the same effect with both vials which i purchased at the same time, I tapered the prop down at the end of my cruise and then onto enanthate and deca
AnonI thought tread put it well up there ^ how did it work for you as far as gains in the gym? I guess that would be a tell tale sign.. how is it going with the e and deca?
Do you still get the Test feel good /top of the world feeling from it ???
Yes
No
Some but not as much as I should
when I ran the Lixus prop to be honest i didnt have ant of the affects i normally have on prop except the strength gains, no random erection which to me really had me baffled because ive never ran prop with out eratic erections. Even the test prop 250 I used from gearedfast was waking me up in the middle of the night but it wasnt from night sweats, it because I couldnt get rid of my boner lol.
heck yea, at Thanksgiving my sisters thong was sticking out from her sweats and i got a insta-boner from my own sister, i had to toss the turkey drumstick aside and sprint to the bathroom to play with my drumstick.
then when I was watching the Lions/Packers game I saw Suh tackle a dude and grab his butt and I had to rush to the bathroom again and toss my own pigskin.