posted Tue, 11/25/2014 - 07:11
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I have an older brother who is 30. He's been in and out if the gym for over 4 years. Anyways, he's working with an older gentleman who has helped him get pharm grade test c and deca but it's his second cycle. I have encouraged him to get on some forms and do research but he insist that this guys is more than experienced than some form and is telling him right. Anyway I was trying to tell him that deca and test c is not an ideal second cycle because he has not seen what test alone can do for him or to him @ 250 wk. anyways just want you guys help to show him. Wether I'm right or not I think he should up his test c to 500week and use that only for a second cycle imp.
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just want to say i apologize if i stirred anyone the wrong way by this post only wanted to help him see why not to do this cycle.....Again i apologize
No worries, its easier if your brother logs in and sees, if he doesn't believe you how can he believe us? And if vice versa, we are all wasting our time and I'm sure you have better things to do then try and hold your stubborn brothers hand.
Yup that's right ... Just pisses me off he would say the shit he does. Basically told me to fuck off and that "them mf's don't know shit" meaning the guys on these forms .... So I'll sit back live my life and let him come running for help. .... Again thanks for the input guys it means a lot
also i stand corrected he said its 250 test c week and 200mg deca week .....when asked why use deca he said the guy forgot to get him test p are else it wouyld be test p /test c / and deca for a second cycle so thats his reason for using deca for a second cycle.... i just dont get it brothers he just doesnt want my help he makes it seem as if im hating on him because hes getting pharm grade and im not which i could careless about just trying to help him
xub3rn00dlexI also wouldn't ever trust some guy in the gym getting me "pharm grade" shit, just my .02.
me either but it is legit comes with his name on the prescription
RustyhookerHave him join and research. Then he can see for himself the possible damage. He can learn and understand.
i tried rusty honestly .... if i could post a pic of our conversation i would to show he doesnt want to listen. I figured i would ask on my own to get feed back and screen shot the posting to try and convince him. By no means am i trying to ask for help because i know theres a spot for cycle help i could have posted there just wanted experienced guys to chime in so i could show him (being its my brother i want him to do it right if hes going to do it). if i need to delete this i will because im not trying to start problems or break the rules just wanted to help him.
Listen man, sounds like you're doing everything you can, but you can only help people who are willing to be helped. I know he's your brother and you want nothing but the best for him, but obviously he doesn't see it that way. Let him run the cycle and learn the hard way. Then he'll be more apt to listen the next time. If he runs what you say he is going to, it won't be long before he comes running to you for help.
I really hope so. He's started the cycle today and that's what I was trying to explain that it's not an ideal cycle but he said everyone different and these are only peoples opinions not facts so my response was theses are people who have experienced these cycles not just making an assumption
Well there you go. He'll know first hand if his decision was the right one.
Have your older brother sign up here and ask us for suggestions. you got lucky this time but we are not fond of giving advice to my friends sisters cousins uncle if you know what I mean.
Hope you didn't take it the wrong way brother in no way was I asking for advice at all. All I wanted was to prove to him that it was wrong to listen to this guy. People's opinion on why it's not an ideal 2nd cycle
How do I add a pic of our conversation just read a message I missed him callings a hater for trying to help
hunteron20sThat deca is to high ..what was his 1st cycle?
His first cycle was test c at 250mg week for 10 weeks
hunteron20s250 a week of test is almost pointless but ..i would ask why he wants to add deca now .see if he had a reason for a added compound
He has HCG all his gear is from the pharm but he's doing 250mg test week and 500-600mg of deca a week
xub3rn00dlexThat's ridiculous, especially considering this is PHARM grade stuff. Id suggest ordering some prami or caber for him, some adex, and then just giving it to him. If he's adamant about going through with it, he'll go through hell the hard way. Being his bro, the best you can do for him being so stubborn is to just prepare him yourself the best you can and when he comes to you for help because shit goes south be there and remedy it, and don't do the told ya so routine. I know you did tell him so, but it'll put him off more than anything. Been there with close friends done that lol.
i hear you bro also wish i could help him but we are in different states (because work) but still dont think he would listen to me.
xub3rn00dlexSorry to hear man. I think rusty put it best , but since yor bro doesn't want to do his research and would rather follow the advice of some random dude in a gym then there's nothing you can do really. Everyone eventually wises up and does the right thing if they are serious about AAS, so I'm hoping he eventually comes around.
thinks bro hope he does too....Sorry for posting this guys just wanted to show him thats all
What that's stupid why would he run deca especially that much higher than test he's going to ruin himself and that dude that's helping him obviously doesn't know jack shit lol wow
I swear I said the same thing I'll post pics of our conversation and he says he knows what he's doing because this guy is coaching him
Also if he is dead set on doing the deca and isn't going to listen then he needs some caber or prami or his sex drive is going to be gone and he won't be able to get it up bc of prolactin
Also thanks for the info I'm going to screen shot it and send it to him. I know there is no stopping him but maybe I can still help. I'm a year younger but feel like the older brother
I pretty much agree but also make sure he has a ai and full pct before he even starts