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Missunderstanding pip

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Hey! im pretty new here,

just wanted to ask you guys (you all seem pretty knowledgeable) your opinions, i have pretty strong pip pinning my delts, what could be the cause? scar-tissue? is it because of my compound? do you suggest switching to insulin needles instead pinning myself with a 0.7 x 30mm 22G e2d?
and before i get attacked, yes i do my research, yes i know what im doing, just unsure if there are better ways to avoid harsh post-injection pain?

also i hope this is the right forum, if not, sorry!

Pumped_'s picture

22's?!?! Aye yuy!

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JakeKO's picture

22g???? That’s your problem right there. I only use 22g as drawing needles. They’re basically harpoons. They’re too thick for the glutes, forget about the delts. That’s fking crazy, LOL

DeeMan's picture

Some like myself are just pip sensitive regardless. Now can I do certain things to lessen the pip? Yeah but nevertheless it's still there slightly. Look at all factors and troubleshoot from there. There are ALOT of contributing factors to consider when it comes to pip.

Catalyst's picture

19 years old……

IrishMack's picture

I would recommend a 16 or 18 gauge for delts but if the OP is 19 the 16 gauge in the calves would be perfect for eliminating pip but only if its 3cc's or more.

Diesel77's picture

I'd go with 25g 1 inch instead of the 22s you are currently using. You might not be going deep enough and that in itself will bring more issues than pip. ( abscesses that will need doctor care) Some compounds are pip prone (short esters vs long esters) in comparison to others and the carrier oil might also play a small part in post injection pain. In the end it boils down to trial/error and ultimately finding which carrier oil your body responds to best. You can also try warming up the oil prior to injecting and hopefully that cuts down pip some. Throw some dry heat (hair dryer, hot packs,) on the vial few minutes beforw drawing out your shot. Good luck

JakeKO's picture

Agreed. I also use 25g, but 1 1/2” for the glutes

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