posted Mon, 12/31/2012 - 18:06
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Hey guys im getting ready to go into the military in the next year once im done with college. im not sure if i will continue with aas but dont want to close that door yet. My older brother is in ..... and he has a ton teamates that are on the stuff in the open. thats my goal is to be under him one day, but im nervous about their drug testing. He doesnt know ive done them since hes gone so much, and says i dont need them, which im not saying i do, but i just wanted to know from some military guys about it. i know they only do 10 panel drug tests, unless special circumstances, but what are the "special circumstances" being "too big" gaining alot of weight in a short amount of time? bacne etc.... thanks again in advance!
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AnonJust out of interest WHY the fk would the us military try and prevent their boys from bettering themselves? Unless they were running around doing tren and beating up small children why would it even be an issue!?
Anonlol, its funny you bring that up.... The last solider who went on a killing rage in
Afghanistan was on gear.. He had a bunch of mental problems though, and snorted valium on a daily basis but anyway he went into a couple small afghan villages and executed a bunch of people. He should have never been allowed to join the military to begin with... Heres the story, but the "facts" are published from the media, so take it with a grain of salt
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/14/nation/la-na-bales-hearing-20121114
AnonThats just efficiency bro lol! But yeh if he had mental issues to begin with maybe he shouldnt have been in the military! My point is.. If used correctly roids can only better a person! Stronger fitter and faster come to mind ;D
Anonoh yeah I totally agree, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all... Bigger, stronger faster soldiers...
1jakd_hipyI've been to Panjway and can tell you everyone there deserved to die
AnonYup Im sure you are right, but 2ID has been getting a bad rap in the past couple of years.. This is like the 3 or 4 incident involving executing civilians. That one squad was smoking hash and killing all those people and making necklaces out of their ears and fingers, lol.
1jakd_hipyThat was 5/2 I may know some people from there.
I have seen people get tested because the CO thought they were on. I'd wait until you are at whatever unit you end up assigned to, and feel out the situation first. I know a few people that were dishonorably discharged because of gear, there are a lot of guys using it though.
1jakd_hipyGetting a DD is a stretch, they rarely give them for schedule 1 substances, its usually an OTH which is a slap on the wrist especially if you reenlist ed after 3 years because you maintain all benefits.
I've seen it, but the military is a big place so my command could have been more strict than yours. Either way, it's not how you want to have your military career end:-)
OK depends on the situation. For you to say your brother has lots of "team mates" kind of insinuates he is in the seals since they are also known as the teams. If so they can be tested for AAS as can any soldier if suspected. In general the basic piss test does not cover AAS because it is expensive. But I have had my entire platoon and team tested because one guy ruined it for us all. This was 15 years ago. On the other hand anything special operations has a lot of latitude and ease of access to AAS from other countries. You have to feel the vibe of your command. But you have a long time to figure it out if that's what you want to do.. Good luck!
1jakd_hipyAlmost every small unit under SOCOM is referred to as a "team"
AnonEven Civil Affairs and Psy Ops consider themselves as teams, HA..I know they fall under SOCOM though
1jakd_hipyEven "snipers" within infantry battalions are referred to as teams, same with scouts
Anonthe cooks who serve the morning chow (not really, but sounded good) we can do this for days!
Also depends on your MOS, and what type of security clearance you hold. Other than that unless there are special circumstances involving a violation with aas you should be fine.
I was in charge of urinalysis testing for my unit years ago. They never test for it. One its way too expensive. Two they need to know what its estered with and each test for ester is about 5000 dollars. Your levels will never be the same as someone eses so its hard to say wether your test is to high for you. They only test for coc, weed, and some other hard drugs. Dont sweat no uri bc of test.
1jakd_hipyBeen in 8 years and have been using and supplying for 6 of them. The only guy I know to get caught was a guy who beat the shit out of his wife, the wife then called battalion commander and brought in one of his vials to show what he was taking. I'm infantry and have supplied hundreds of enlisted and officers. The military doesn't care about it unless they have to. So no worries.
Good to hear man. yeah ibdont ever have anger problems while on so i should be good. im really glad to hear all these comments. it makes me feel alot better since this last cycle before i go in is going to be a long one.
Anonmake sure your natural test levels are back to normal before you start your training
Yeah i agree, my body responds really well to long cycles and the boys always come back pretty quick.
Anonfuck your boys.. you gonna be surrounded by all dudes, make sure you have the natty test levels good for energy and endurance, the officer world is cut throat as fuck, if you have a bad day your career option can go from infantry to supply officer in a sec
Yeah my bro always said officers werent a band of brothers like he was with his guys, and yeah theres a place here its only 20$ to get test checked. i was at 866 7 weeks after my last cycle. and ive been as high as 1006. And once im in im sure it wont be what i expect, but thats howbitbusually goesbin the military.
Special circumstances being that the commander needs enough proof to order you to take the test. Pretty much getting caught with a needle in your ass or blabbing your mouth to anybody that may blow your cover. If your going to run AAS in the military don't tell anybody about it! Also they can ask you to take a test and you can refuse if it is not a command directed test. They will then have to get enough evidence to get a command directed AAS test. If you fail the commander directed test it cannot be used in a court martial but you will mot likely be generally discharged. With that being said I've known a few people who have been using while in and never seen anyone get tested. Just keep it a secret and don't use something that's gonna blow you up 30lbs in one cycle.
Okay sounds good bro, i have enough size anyways just want to train with it for endurance which ie never done but thats another story.haha im about to start my last bulk cycle this week. and ive never done another drug, so im very quite about it, its a huge "no-no" in my house.
Anondude Iv been In the military for 10 years now, and been on AAS for the last 5, I never pissed hot on a UA... you are fine. the only thing that sucks is you lose your gains fast when in a "physical" school Ex) Ranger school, Sniper School and even some of the academic schools you are so focused you don't have time to use EX) pathfinder school ,Jumpmaster etc... My first part of my career was in Regt., most of the Senior and Junior NCOs use AAS while deployed but its not a big thing in garrison, to hard to maintain a AAS schedule when in the field, etc... And you sure your bro isn't CAG support? Theres only a total of MAYBE 500 CAG operators in the country
Okay sweet bro good to hear.lol and naw he is CAG and i think theres more like 300 operators. And yeah he has been deployed 3-4 times i think. and he always comes back bigger. but im 99.9% sure hes never touched em. so havr you ever heard of people getting caught?
I'm not here to bust your bubble but you need to think about what you are posting. First off, you shouldn't be posting that your brother is in CAG...period. Secondly, you sure as fuck don't need to be posting about unit strength on an open forum! Ever heard of OPSEC? And you want to be an officer in SF? Sweet Jesus man.
For what it's worth, in not going to say whether your post is accurate or not but you need to edit that shit out ASAP.
Got it bro i fucked up, im young and dumb, not an excuse though, just trying to get some help and all the guys on here have been great.
I'm not trying to be an ass but the world you want to enter isn't very forgiving. Nor do most of us talk about what we do or who we do it for. And we certainly wouldn't want others doing it for us.
Take this situation and learn from it.
Anonespecially what's going now in the military, they kicking dudes out for getting in fights at the bar
You guys are both right, im gonna treat this like my aas use. What use?
Anonhe cant... once it gets responded to cant edit it!
Yeah man, just saw your other reply farther down below. Now I slightly feel like an ass for coming across harsh. Slightly...
Just blame it on the roids bro, everyone else does.haha
Anonyea man...you did the right thing, he should have know better
If he's CAG don't be posting tha shit on a forum. As for aas in military your good man, like infidel said command usually doesnt give a shit as long as you keep mood swings in check and your not spouting off at the mouth to other people.
Anonyea he edited it...but too many people (including myself) mentioned it and it got responded...retarded on all our parts
Yeah i figured know one knows who i am so i could post it. but you guys are right bro. and yeah i dont have that problem so i should be good man
AnonI have seen dudes getting caught, it was in the 82nd ABN Div.. a E-4, had a health and welfare inspection in Iraq, left all his needles and gear right next to cot like a retard, never seen or heard of anyone pissing hot though
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Okay yeah im deff not a meathead. im pretty quite about my use. ive never done.another drug other then aas. im goin in as an officer so hope that doesnt change anything. And yeah the physical is pretty gruelling, im hopeing to get my 2 mile time faster, my older bro can do it in under 12mins, my fastest time is 14, but im also bigger then he is, well im 5nches shorter but have a bigger build
You can definitely get under 12 on aas, I just ran a half marathon under 9 min miles, I'm about 5' 11, 215 or so. Good luck holmes!
yeah im 5'9 222, with 14%bf or so, i think.if i keep at it and cut up a bit i can make it. thanks for the inspiration bro!
Anonif you wanna get faster at your 2miler (which in the Sepc ops community is nothing.. they do 10 mil ruck runs at a 6 to7 mile pace)then do intervals.... sprint for 60 sec jog for 120sec, do it again then drop it to sprinting for 45 sec jog for 90sec do it again, then sprint for 30 sec jog for 60 sec do it again...do that 3 times a week and you will get your 12 min 2 mile in less than a month
Yeah man ive done intervals with him before(which i puke every time). but yeah that sounds like a plan man i.just copied your post and saved it. thanks for the help. and rucking doesnt seem to hard for me. idk if any.of you have heard of the incline in colorado springs? but we would do it with 80pound ruck sacks and it was killer to say the least.haha its a good switchup though fotsure.
Anon18X is for enlisted only... that's the X part, a officer is a 18A
Anonyou cant go 18X as an officer! If you wanna go SF as an officer, you gotta go infantry, get your ranger tab...do you lieutenant time in the convential army, then after you have your company commander time you can go to SFAS (special forces selection)
Fuck man idk then, i just made the choice to go officer, my lil bro as well, but we have told my older bro cause he is against it. looks like i have more research. thanks for pointing that out bro!
No one in CAG does gear out in the open. How long has your brother been in the Army?