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Identical Websites

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Do identical websites indicate a scam? With identical, I don't mean exact replica. I'm talking roughly 95% similarity including: styling (e.g. fonts, categories, etc.), sitemap, general layout and products (usually slightly different not the same inventory). They rarely have references to each other and rarely have similar URLs. I know web scraping can be used to spin up a near replica of a site possibly?

So what are your thoughts on "identical" websites?

How do you tell if one is a scam?
Are they ever just coincidences?

bbdoc's picture

For the random sources you found on the internet. Do not risk your self. This is why here exists..

But here also copy sites... I guess it's operated by same sources as marketing strategy.. i don't know if it's against any rules. But if i can notice these sites, moderators should already know. so if source is here, and has reviews.. it's probably same source. it doesn't matters since my gear is good and arrives safely.

Greg's picture

Coke owns 200 brands of soda. Anheuser-Busch has 400 brands of beer. Would it be surprising to discover UGL's market more than one brand?

Secondly, there are a lot of website templets out there. Not many are going to hire web designers and marketing experts. Obviously there are copycat websites trying to syphon off business from successful sites as well.

How do you tell if one is a scam?

You research on popular review sites like eroids

Are they ever just coincidences?

There's no such thing.

KMC's picture

There is a lot of duplication in this business. I just received 2 packages from 2 completely different sources (both in Eroids Top 10). On examining the packages, it was apparent they were shipped by the same person from the same warehouse. Labels printed with the same program/printer, spacing was exactly the same, shipper was the same the only thing different between the 2 labels was the invoice #. Was this fraud? No, not at all. Testing is on going of the products involved, but they already appear to be spot on.

Many sources employ secondary shipping services, probably money collectors etc.. It is what the game has evolved into.
If the source can distance themselves from the actual storage and shipping of the compounds, it make it safer for them.
We are not dealing with little mom and pop operations anymore.

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press1's picture

Its best to go off the Reviews page and also general feedback on the SI, making sure there is both old and up to date positive feedback. I personally wouldn't take the risk in sending money to anyone that wasn't at least registered for 3 months on here, preferably 6. You can see a mile off who is reasonably new and who's been here 4 years plus. Guys who have been here a number of years have much more to lose if they were to suddenly disappear. Sometimes though I must admit it can still be hard to tell if various sites looking the same and are newly registered are a scam. I was proven wrong a few months ago when there were 3 sites up that were almost identical in layout and design. Made up of broken English and irrelevant steroid articles, they all ran promos and never in a million years did I think any of the gear would show up - But sure enough it did!!

KMC's picture

I can remember a source (no longer here), that not only was a source (with a very good reputation) for gear, but a source for software, websites, servers in far away lands, money collectors and other related products. Kind of a one stop shop for those going into the business.

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KMC's picture

How do you tell if one is a scam?

Read the reviews on the Eroids SI pages. It is really that simple.

History lesson: The summer of the year I first joined Eroids.com, a very large source was having severe shipping problems (10's of 1,000's of packages) the thought was it was a Post Master not receiving their stipend's. I (and others) reviewing 100's of source sites, it was discovered there were approx 5 other sites with the exact same layouts and website setup, the only difference was the color scheme. One would have a red background with black lettering , one would be yellow background with dark blue lettering, ect. One of the members here even contacted one of the sites to check on his ticket with the master site and was given information on the order , ie: types and quanities of products ordered. So, no, they are not always a scam.

Read the reviews and consider the history, a new site with 10 reviews in the last week is NOT history.

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Makwa's picture

Follow the links on Eroids is the best way to avoid scam sites.

BFG's picture

Sometimes a source will operate multiple websites on different domains.

But, there are cases where scammers copy websites pixel by pixel, picks a domain name that is almost identical to the original for example: buysteroids.com vs buysteriods.com, and run a scam promo.

Serrajitsu0876's picture

No it’s not a scam. It’s the same guy. Each guy usually has different products and they may both run promos at the same time. More exposure, more $.

blackjack115's picture

Exactly. It's not a new concept and definitely not exclusive to steroids. In every industry there are companies that own their own "Competitors". To maximize their market share.

xanthos's picture

I'm just wondering what's up basically because there are a number of websites with 1 to 10 clones with no reference to each other.