posted Wed, 05/16/2018 - 20:54
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In holy month of ramadan muslims of all over world keep fasting for 30 days, in different area duration of fasting in a day is difference, some countries daily fasting is 16 hours and some countries is 11 hours, in whole month keeping fasting strength goes down and obviously also loose muscle too, whats your opinion that how we avoid to loose muscle in this holy month, we dont skip fasting...
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Is this good opportunity to get fat loss or just try to maintain my muscles during whole month?
what will be more focus?
It is actually both. A successful cut is one where you drop the fat and maintain your muscle mass. Just forget about trying to gain mass.
AnonMost likely fat loss, the saying eat big get big is a real thing. This would be a great opportunity to eat super clean when your religion allows and then do a decent cardio regime along with your lifting. Then when fasting is over, eat like an animal and train like an animal, turn into an animal. Grrrrrr
I am very happy to see the deep interest of all group members, you are all my seniors and your value able output is very important for me.
i hope this debate will not change into muslim or non muslim religion thoughts, here i raise my query in front of you that i will not miss fasting for 30 days and as well as i try to save my muscle too, some guys give me very good tips i start following, today is my 5th day on fasting, still doing good workout and energies are good.
some members correct me that i spell wrong of ramadan, i correct it now.
We are all inclusive here. I actually fasted on the first day of Ramadan in honor of a muslim friend of mine. I work in the heat so I had to pick a cool day to do it.
LOVE you brother...
I agrees with Makwa.. time to complete a mini cut.
Improvise, adapt, overcome.
Convert. Just kidding man.
The muslim religion confuses me and I hope you can take my questions as a chance to learn and that I am not bashing at all. I guess my confusion lies within what exactly you have to follow and what you can choose not to. For example, I have read many parts of the Koran. Your body is a temple, well isn't steroid use against the rules? Halal for example too, do all your proteins have to be slaughtered alive and have the blood drained from the animal while your its heart is still pumping? If you don't follow those rules or hadiths, why do you choose to follow the month of ramadan? It sounds painfully awful, especially if body building. Just curious.
Steroid use is not against Islam - only abuse (where you harm your body) is. As long as the compound is kept clean and is not contaminated, then it's use is ok. Also if Whey Protein is Halal certified - it can be consumed. Halal is not only about the slaughter ritual of animals, it's about what foods and drinks are permissible to consume according to Islam.
99% of people that follow religion, choose to only follow the parts they like.
AnonLike eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood, gotta get my gains.
LOL
it's 18 hours in here, fking my gains up, and i just finished my cycle, but i don't care, i can retrieve the lost gains after wards really easy.
I would say try to consume small meals between the eating hours, i do that, i make sure that i consume 3000 calories in these 6/7 hours, try to train post iftaar bro, helps a lot with glycogen stored in muscle, gives you more energy to push weight
RustyhookerI was catholic til i slept in..... cured that shit up.
Lol
I was raised catholic. I learned when i was a kid that santa clause isn't real and gave up on religion. If santa cant really pass through the chimney with a bag of presents than Jesus cant turn wine into water and wake up from the dead. Cool story and a great way to keep people from being savages. Be good and you will go to heaven. I do however try and live by the golden rule. Treat others the way you wish to be treated. Seems to work pretty well, sometimes.. .
RustyhookerBasic rules of how to not be a buttnug. Its a good idea imo but has a level of drama too. Lol
I would advise taking a heavy dose of a very slowly digesting protein such as casein right before the fasting period begins. That way you can at least maintain a slow stream of amino acids as the protein slowly digests during the period of fasting. Very similar to drinking a casien shake or eating cottage cheese prior to going to sleep at night.
Why would somebody dislike this?
Most likely a “fat thumb”.
I think no one noticed that the Islamic fast also includes water. Wouldn’t it be worse the lack of hidration for 16h than the lack of food? Also running a cycle without drinking any liquids sounds dangerous
It is very admirable that you wish your keep sacred your beliefs. That being said, I personally have always believed that there are no problems only solutions. You simply have to make the most of the opportunities you have to eat. Supplementation by combining a quality whey protein isolate product combined with a quality complex carb product will be paramount. This will help you cover your nutrition bases while allowing you to keep your calories up. You may have to utilized several of these shakes a day during the time allotted. This way you can maximize quick absorbing nutrition while never feeling full. Also, timing is
everything. If you have to set a clock even, so be it. Where there is a will there is always a way.
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All the muslim lads I know ted to binge at sunset. Many of them operate different hours too and stay up for longer meals.
butter and peanut butter, get it in
Yes -that's what generally happens here also (where I live 25% of the population are Muslim).
Ramadan fasting is simply dawn to sunset fasting. In other words - no 'visible' eating from Sunrise to Sunset. From Sunset onward you can eat whatever and how often you wish, until Sunrise. Very few Westernised Muslims obey the strict rules of Ramadan. Since you are professing to be a devout Muslim, I'm surprised that you spelt Ramadan incorrectly.
Isn't Ramadaan an Islamic spelling of the word?
You could have Googled it - but hey - I did the work and the answer is NOPE. https://www.halaltrip.com/other/blog/how-is-ramadan-spelled-in-different...
I taught Sharia Law at college level for 13 years. I figure that I have a reasonable idea (but to be fair - there could be some regional variances that are not recorded)
Hmmm... I know nothing about it at all, hence the question.
That said, I have seen Muslim friends spell it with a dh so I am thinking that it might be a translation/language issue, rather than a dialect issue?? Again... not a clue here, just curious.
While teaching Sharia law, did you teach Arabic (to English) text or English speaking translation/interpretation? Reason I ask is that Irish has many words and letters that do not translate directly to English. Ultimately, you have to work around them with sentences / description when translating to English.
"While teaching Sharia law, did you teach Arabic (to English) text or English speaking translation/interpretation?" English translation/interpretation, but I had to be correct in my spelling and pronunciation of course. I fully accept your point about translations - especially languages like Gaelic and Celtic.
For my classes, I also had to know about the history of Islam and it's major features as a religion. It was part of a Legal Studies subject where I taught about Inquisitorial, Adversarial, Aboriginal (Australian) Customary and Sharia Law. So, I don't profess to be an expert (didn't mean for it to come across that way), but I consider myself reasonably knowledgeable.
Not an expert? ..... well I think it is safe to say that you know more about this than 99% of the western world!
I think it's a fascinating topic. Even the madness that is going on over the last few years and how certain interpretations can justify certain things (for some).
Thanks for the kind words. I have a Muslim friend here from Jordan with whom I have had a number of discussions around Islam. He recently printed several thousand copies of an English translation of the Qur'an for international distribution. I have a copy in my house and sometimes read it to try to get an understanding of the Muslim mind. Islam is a fascinating topic - the issues that exist are as you say - interpretations. Some believe that the Qur'an should be interpreted and followed as written in the 7th Century (600s), others believe that it's interpretation should be flexible to take into consideration social evolution. Anyway - this is not the forum for such a discussion, but I like how topics can evolve here on Eroids.
I believe that kind of discussion holds true for all religion, where certain wings want a strict interpretation as it was written way back when, and others view it not so much as a strict reading but more of a guide, where the philosophies of the books should be heeded and applied to the modern day.
I’ve always been fascinated by how everyone thinks their book is the only book, but cannot look beyond their own bubble to see the similarities not only amongst the major religions and texts, but how they’ve evolved with us as people from more ancient beliefs.
Yes - agreed. Good point. Most religions have build upon preexisting religions. Islam is essentially a rewritten/revised combination of the Torah and Tanakh (although I wouldn't suggest mentioning this to a Muslim). The Christian Bible has as the 1st Testament the Torah. Before Judaism, Christianity and Islam, there was Zoroastrianism for some 2000 years, with the same concept of an ultimate single supernatural being who decides everything. For me, religion is mankind's way of believing that we are not alone in the universe, and that there must be someone who created us and is looking out for us, and there must be something more to this life that we live. Personally - I'm an atheist: my 'god' is science..
You might like some of Hameroff and Penrose's work on consciousness. It has lots of criticism (naturally), but it leans towards a future scientific proof of some religeous theories (reincarnation, soul and the likes).
Figured it out, I think!.........
It's Ramadan in Somali language: https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadaan
Good find! - The OP hasn't commented, so would be good to know if you are right.
Yep as everyone said below. You eat when you can. Everything. Keep a clock handy lol
Time to switch to a pro-bodybuilding oriented god perhaps?
On a more serious note, get all your macros in the ‘non-fasting’ period, that’s the only way I see it working.
AAS are known to be protein sparing. Just saying...
Might be a good time to run a cutter.
A 4-6 weeker with shorts would probably be perfect.
You just have to reach all
Macros in the time that your aloud to eat.
AnonSkip religion?
Best advice I read today.
LMAO.... made my day, bro
I would wake up and eat cottage cheese in the middle of the night and include it with each meal.
Hahahahahaha
Lol . I’m not even fasting and do this all the time. I’m a pig though.
If in wake up in the middle of the night I just eat a bowl of cheerios
Hey Omer, I would do my best to stick same amount of calories in as I was eating before in the time interval you are allowed to eat. Same with the water intake.
Would concentrate more on protein and only have enough carbs to get me through the day and a workout as would be silly to try to have all them carbs in couple meals.
Few of the gyms run by Muslim guys where I live are opened till early hours in the morning to give guys that are fasting a chance to train after they had some food.
As a result more likely you will find yourself being in a nicer posting after fasting in regards to body fat percentage and body composition.
Might be a good time to step on stage.
If you keep calories up, more likely you will not lose any muscles at all. You really don’t need to eat 24/7 year around to keep the muscles, what you need though is to stick to the calories I take you had before