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help regarding pip plz

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Ive got some serious pip from my test e 250, 375mg 2x/wk w/a 25g x 1". I'm kickstarting with 100mg test prop EOD. Its my first time injecting MCT oil, so I can't help but think it may be that, although the prop is in MCT also and it has no pip at all. I tried heating and not heating and a very slowwwww pin. Quads have been the worst, left quad still hurts mildly from last Tuesdays pin. Everything is done clean, that's not an issue. Like to know what you guys do to manage it so it doesn't interfere with training, how to avoid it altogether or any other thoughts on it. I rotate quads and delts.
Thanks fuckers

win3200's picture

That's funny

puppers2213's picture

Rusty I was hoping you'd chime in, I know you help a lot of ppl. Glad to finally get the chance to,...well, whatever this is. Thanks for the link. Fucker,lol thanks that means alot. And its the test e not the prop that's got the sick bite to it.

Makwa's picture

Do you have a different brand of test e on hand that you could try instead?

puppers2213's picture

I was running another sources test e 400, wicked pip. But here's the odd part, had 250 left from a now defunct lab that sent me 2 different looking test cyps. 2 that I assumed were just grapeseed oil so I never used them, 2 that I ran that were the real deal. Well I had been cutting the 400 w/ the (grapeseed(?) and no pip, none.

legendinthemaikng's picture

If it's only bothering you when you pin quads just avoid them. Hit glutes pecs lats. It also sounds like you may be pinning way to much to only have 4 spots. Maybe I read this wrong but you are sticking yourself 5 times a week at the moment In Order to do a prop kicker with the E? Only rotating 4 spots. So one spot is getting hit twice in a week. Not a very good rotation.
Can you explain your pin rotation better so I have an idea of how often your spots are getting hit?

puppers2213's picture

Your right i am, but it varies. Pinned a delt yest, and pip was minor for a 2.5cc pin. I'm making sure to do both test e pins with 2 of the prop pins to cut down on pinning, so its a max of 4 spots every week (2.5cc's in one barrel 2x/wk). Im not allowing myself to do glutes, its a mental thing cuz of the sciatic nerve being back there. Hard to maneuver that spot too. Lats & pecs? What size pin u go with?

legendinthemaikng's picture

1inch is what I use depends on your size you can get away with 5/8 in pec if you r really lean. Put your finger on your nipple go an inch in then and inch up cross your arm on the pec your gonna hit like you r reaching for the opposite pants pocket but do not flex. It's a nice sweet spot. I wouldn't put any more than 1.5cc in it though personally.
Just think that if it only bothers you when hitting quads avoiding them is an easy fix. The more spots you are used to injecting the better off you are, especially if you decide to run short esters in the future.

puppers2213's picture

Chest is seeming ideal now. I looked at the links Rusty put up and in the one the dudes got the pin barely in his chest, and he's got decent size pecs. Guess I'd go with a 5/8, just not sure how deep. I think that technique you described will be ideal. Gives a thick spot to pin in. I got a torn pec major on the right, not sure how it would work on that side.

legendinthemaikng's picture

Let me know how it goes brother.

puppers2213's picture

Will do. Thanks for the helpful input, much appreciated.

legendinthemaikng's picture

Nah they r easy it's a large muscle. It's a smooth spot.

legendinthemaikng's picture

I am not anything close to a vet but the more spots you hit the better IMO. Less chances of getting a cyst or an infection. You are causing the growth of scar tissue each time you pin so why not spread it around. Pecs are another really good spot a lot of meat and very little nerves.

Lorax's picture

Get some sterile oil grape seed is what I use. U might need to sterilize it yoursef you a need wattman syringe fillter steral empty viles when filling viles u need to vent them with a small pin 25g will work start with 50 50 cut of gear its a must when I run prop