I am 31 years old now, Im not as old as some of you but im not young either, I feel pains now I never felt in my 20's. I know this is only to get worse. I get a pain in my lower back now that I have never felt before, Its from leaning over putting car parts in boxes all day. I can say now that I have a better sence of judgement than I did when I was younger. I make more mature choices and ive learned research is the key to perfecting anything. When I started back using steroids I was a measley 127lbs, I had a problem with muscle waisting due to having TD. I started out at low doses of test cyp combined with proper training I believe it brought my weight up to where it would have been if i had normal test levels. I added deca to the equasion as I ran 2 mini cycles concurrently. I am no expert by no means but I do feel like I have quite a bit of knowledge to teach others how to mass gain. I have gained a tremendous amout of strength compared to where I started. What I have learned is its all about being commited to accomplishing what you want. If you think for one second you that its just gonna be given to you when your half ass trying then your in store for great disappointment, everyone is different, I cant workout like someone who has no problem gaining weight. I have to becareful of burning to many calories, so I limit my workouts to 45-60min sessions. But during that time period I get as much in as possible, lifting as heavy as my body will allow, failure is a plus, if you are giving it 110% and you fail to get up that last rep that is what tells your body to rebuild that muscle stronger. I go to the gym 4-5 days a week. I know we are all driven to push as hard as we can but going to the gym to much will cause alot of disappointment if your trying to mass build. this doesnt neccesarily apply to those who are cutting down or trying to lose weight. EAT!!! if you want to grow you have to eat!! you cant just eat here and there and expect to build muscle. Some of you blame the gear as if its the gears fault your not getting the results you hoped for and your not eating like you should be. I dont care what gear your on, if you aint eatting right then you are waisting alot of money buying gear. I know everyone has their own experiences and different strokes for different folks but the principles is the same. Its time to quit playing around and take this seriously if you are using gear, for those of you that arent getting those results you thought and are argueing with guys who have been doing this 25 years because you read a article and think you know everything, its time to zip it and listen. Im not bragging but theres a reason I got to where I am now and that by listening to what people like tread and goth have to say, Im not anything special but I do fel as if Ive come a long way from where I use to be. If any of you are hard gainers and need some advice and are ready to listen im here for ya, I can get you started, the rest is totally on you.