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+ 7 Do's and Don'ts when Pinning

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hrdbdyGRRRL and I were talking last and a good topic was requested to help the new guys out in the pinning dept...Pinning is very simple yet can be very dangerous at the same time if you do not know what you are doing...So I will give you a little guideline to help...

DO's

1) Wash your hands before you inject
2) Use alcohol preps to wipe the top of your vial and the site you are injecting
3) Change the needle out after you draw out of the vial bc the rubber stopper dulls the needle and may make the injection more uncomfortable
4) Use appropriate muscle groups to inject like deltoids (medial head), glutes in upper quadrant, ventrogluteal mid section, outer mid section of quads (vastus lateralis)...those are your best bets to inject without difficulty as a beginner
5) Roll the syringe of oil in your hand so its warm and won't cause the muscle to spasm causing discomfort
6) Inject at a 90 degree angle
7) Aspirate to assure no blood bc that means you are in a vessel or vein
8) Wipe the site again when you remove the needle and check for bleeding, if so apply a small amount of pressure until it stop and put a band-aid on it to protect from irritants
9) Rotate your injection sites and if you insist on using the same area then move an inch away from your last site

NOW...For the DON'TS

1) DO NOT reuse the syringe or needle...this can cause a major infection
2) DO NOT use alcohol to wipe your needle before you inject bc the alcohol will make the injection burn and cause localized tissue irritation...The needle is sterile unless you touched it or exposed it to something unsterile
3) DO NOT inject anywhere around the groin, wrists, neck or head areas because there are major arteries in these areas that can lead to serious complications to say he least...its a no brainer, but just in case...LOL
4) DO NOT inject anything that is questionable in quality or possibly contaminated
5) DO NOT inject in the same site repeatedly...rotate the sites and give the area a chance to heal
6) DO NOT inject the oil if it has crystals in it...heat the oil up and make sure they dissolve or get another vial of gear that doesn't have them in it
7) DO NOT handle your syringe, needle, or gear with dirty hands...WASH THEM!!

Now if you will followthos simple guidelines then you will have a better pinning experience and less chance of an infection or abcess...I hope this helped you guys out

anyti's picture

@Cjplay if you have injected into a vein or vessel, what will happen is, the instant you begin to pull back on the syringe even just very very slightly, the blood will flow in easily.
If you have entered the muscle tissue, then you will feel that it is quite hard to actually pull back on the syringe, and it starts to nip if you continue to pull back. then you are good to go.
So to answer your question, you only have to give it a little tug back

Cjplay's picture

Perfect, thanks bro.

Cjplay's picture

How far do you pull the plunge back when you asperate?

jimboe85's picture

You pull it back just enough to see air bubble into the syringe....if the air bubble goes into syringe and floats to the top, do not worry, most likely it won't make its way into tissue and even if it does, no harm. Basically the aspiration is to make sure your needle is not inside a blood vessel. If you pull back and see blood, pull needle out of it, if you see air, your good to go brother. And be carefule NOT to move the syringe around, remember that needle is like a razor and any movement is sure to slice up the muscle ur in. So be very steady to avoid unecessary tissue damage/pain.

Cjplay's picture

First pin, like butta! Thanks for the advice.

whiteNcrispy's picture

Here are a couple extras that I overlooked the first couple times I pinned.

-Make sure to fill the needle. If you don't do this, aspiration will immediately draw air bubbles possibly giving you a false sense of what's below the pinhead. If you're in a vein, the airlock will prevent blood from showing until all air is drawn back into the syringe; simple plumbing logic here. This is a little redundant with guys saying to push some out for lubrication, but IMO there's a more important reason here.

-Leave a .1-.2cc bubble of air at the top of the plunger to clear out the needle as the plunger hits bottom. There is up to .25cc of oil held in a 1.5" 22g needle alone. If you're not getting that, you're losing 1cc every four injections.

And one more because I didn't see it here: DON'T blow on the alcohol to get it to dry faster! You may as will just lick the injection sight with your filthy mouth if you're doing this Blum 3

gurn's picture

I always pin after a hot shower.

roflbbq's picture

nice tips. anyone else use z-track method too?

logan's picture

Very nice as usual. I think I'm just going to stop complimenting and just put a 1 up every time I like what you say(WHICH IS ALWAYS) less typing.

fast48's picture

Let that single drop oil prelube the needle. Point at sky..superslow push on plunger. Needle slides in buttery.

jimboe85's picture

I have tried that bro and I've found that it irritates my subq tissue as I go in. It burns a little. What Ifound to be the best is the needles from rite aid I think that are the ez glide or suttin, ill double check the name. But kinneys and rite aid sell them IBELIEVE, and they are the best for smooth injections. I rarely feel them go in...no homo. Obviously. But yea Iprefer raw doggin it instead of lubing it up with the oil....no homo.....

kodiakGRRL's picture

fantastatic write up .. thank you ;-)

Detroitnate's picture

GOOD post bro I would like to add dont get the needle wet. I have seen a lot of guys when heating up the base under hot water get the needle tip wet and when they inject the site gets infected from the none sterile water.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Also NO NEED TO BURY THE NEEDLE! ABOUT 5/8" SHOULD BE FINE FOR MOST OF US... IF YOU NEED TO BURY THE NEEDLE TO GET THROUGH THE FAT THAN ITS PROBABLY AN INDICATOR THAT YOUR CYCLE IS PREMATURE

logan's picture

LOL very true.

Darhod's picture

Excellent post I just posted about keeping a sharps box and using your local needle exchange it's free in the uk

levelup's picture

good info caddy, always dropping knowledge! im a complete noob and found the pecs to be easiest...i know most people say wait until you have more experience before hitting the pecs so im not sure if that works for everybody but its ez for me bc its right in front

power_house's picture

Good stuff bro...

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Good post brother!... i have to mention this it happened this morning and seems relevant to this thread... i pin every single morning after shaving but before showering... ok this morning just hitting the second shot into right delt all nice and quiet in the bedroom just as the pin entered the skin the fucking dog started barking due to some noise outside i swear i nearly pushed the fucking pin all the way through too the bone lmao!

Moral of the story even though the dog is your best friend put him/her in the fucking back garden whilst pinning to save throwing dumbells at him/her and screaming every swear word you ever learned at your best friend lmfao!.... true story.

logan's picture

I threw my back out 2 years ago and after 3 days in bed I could finally stand up barely and the first thing was my dog jumped on me. Put me down to the ground and in bed for 2 more days. I loved my husky but at that moment if I had a gun I would have shot her in the head. So I understand were you are coming from.

Darhod's picture

Could be worse i learned tha hard way to put the dog out when watching porn lol

DBG's picture

HAHAHAHAHAHA....LMFAO!! Vike you turned my day around man...I have been all pissed off this morning due to certain circumstances and that story made me finally laugh and smile again. Thanx, lol.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Hahahahah...i feel ya brother not everybody on here has got my sense of humour yet lol...but you know me very well my friend Smile

Cjplay's picture

"I nearly pushed the fucking pin all the way through to the bone... Lmao"? You and I have two completely different ideas of what funny is.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

You will eventually have a light hearted approach to pinning bro it takes a little time to get used to doing it but depending on how far you want to take it most advanced or pre/comp cycles require daily multi pinning in a variety of sites i.e i hate quads but i like to pin pecs and delts i also like to pin outer forearms due to having thick meat on there,traps and lats are ok but calves are a big no go area for me.. did it once with escilene could hardly walk so never again,everybody has a favourite pinning muscle after a while.. you will find yours i am sure.

Cjplay's picture

Just received my first order. No literally, like 5 minutes ago. Time to start stickin!

Cam2012's picture

I learned not to wipe the needle with alcohol the hard way lol

mike7's picture

Very good helpful info +1..

Cjplay's picture

Just getting started. The first thing to arrive we're my supplies. This is when the shit gets real. 100-20g x1" needles, 100-23g x1.5" needles, 100-3 ml syringes, 200-alcohol wipes, and sharps container(of which I do not know what the hell to do with when its full). Ready to get this show on the road.

Darhod's picture

If you live in uk take to chemist or pharmacy .

Cjplay's picture

Stateside, but thanks. I'm sure it's something similar.