posted Mon, 05/25/2026 - 19:12
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So based off anecdotal first hand experience here, a lot of us seem to like and tolerate DHB relatively well (from what I’ve seen)
BUT
If you look up DHB on YouTube, literally every vid mostly talks about how it’s like this super toxic junk steroid basically… Why does all the YouTubers hate on it? I find it strange because in my circle I haven’t really heard much negative talk on compound, actually the contrary. Obviously people react differently to different compounds, I just find it weird how the consensus differentiates to that degree
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The same social media tards that jump all over the Tren band wagon gonna hate on DHB, yea, I try to avoid advise or input from those tards.
After running several DHB cycles, it ranks alongside Primo as one of my favorites for delivering dry, lean gains, excellent vascularity, and intense pumps. I am currently the leanest I've been in years on a weekly stack of 300mg DHB, 375mg Test, and 300 Deca (split M/W/F). While PIP was crippling with one batch from several years ago, recent batches have been highly tolerable, especially when mitigated by heating the oil or mixing it with another compound such as Test.
Furthermore, my recent blood work shows all health markers, including lipids, are in the normal range, with only my testosterone levels being elevated.
My experience most closely aligns with people who compare it to tren without the harsh sides... and my experience with DHB dates back to the Muta days (for those who have been here around 10 years or more).
People don’t like things that are difficult… I’m on vacation right now and have had one frozen adult beverage while watching my wife drink whatever she wants.
All this shit affects your body in some negative way or another… but so does most junk the critics ingest. Preworkouts, energy drinks, highly processed foods labeled as healthy… they are no different in my book. Gear produces real life results with the work.
Also, the ones whining probably don’t have a source for it and want to piss on everyone else’s parade.
The guys on the think big podcast and I think Todd lee? Hes a fan also so from what im seeing its favorable besides the science based only guys because of 1 study. I didnt react to it well so I had to cut my time short with it but loved the look I had with it for the short time
What was the issue if you don’t mind me asking. How much were you using?
Gainz411https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Bb0VVxopU4LnjUTUkMpFF?si=ZFDfWpFVTEacn...
Nice listen about dhb if anyone is interested.
The answer to your question is very simple.
This is not a grand conspiracy some make it out to be.
The limited clinical data all points to the same conclusions regarding high toxicity.
That being said, the limited clinical data is not the end all nor be all. It is just what we have to work with. Likewise all trials & studies must also be taken with grains of salt as not all studies are created or conducted equal.
The parroted clinical date compared to many person's real world anecdotal experience does not seems to correlate. Why would that be?
Simple- Different people using different compounds from different manufacturers, while utilizing different administration protocols react differently.
That is the name of this game.
Knowing your body. How YOU react to compounds and protocol will be wildly different from the next person.
This is why bloodwork is essential.
I know lots of people who swear by EQ & DHB. Personally, I can not run Boldenone at all in any form. That is just how my body reacts.
Again, that is the name of this game.
It is all about goals, risk to reward ratio, and not guessing but knowing what really works for you.
The real answer is the normal bro doesn’t run gear appropriately and reaps the consequences of such.
It did slightly raise my CRP, but the liver toxicity, and exaggerated inflammation rumor has not been true for me.
I think if you find good quality DHB made with minimal solvents, you should be gtg without crippling pip and inflammation markers
I really liked it, I've only run it once. I didn't do labs so I cant say what effect it in that regard.
Greg D started it all. Influencers just repeat what others say
unseen423yep, exactly! no original thoughts bc they don't want the backlash (or they just have no fucking clue what they are talking about). Also, most of them look like shit- like they dont train let alone run any gear.
He also sounds like a parrot…that screeching drives me crazy
I’ve always been curious with the DHB. How much do you normally run 100mgs a day?
I've heard/read you want at least 300-350mg a week. I ran it at 350mg 1/1 with test cyp. I thought it did what I was expecting. Nice dry gains, no side effects besides the PIP, which is the only reason I didn't run it higher. Batch was pretty crippling, even diluting it. I hear theyve figured out how to make it alot less painful. I can take some PIP no problem. That shit was definitly the worst I've felt. I can only imagine trying to use it without diluting it, and running higher doses? I was pinning daily, smaller shots, trying to spread it out. I ran out of spots to pin quickly. it took a few days to a week before the PIP went away fully. If they worked out how to brew it painless, or less painful at least, Id give it another go.
The brands I have been using has very little to no PIP whatsoever. I do mix it in the syringe with Test or other compounds though.
Is that a high enough dose though?
It was enough to remember it being a solid cycle. I didn't even run it long. 8 or 9 weeks. I was happy with the results. Like I said, it did what I expected it to.
I'm gonna find out, planning to run it 20-24 weeks at 300mg alongside 750mg test e in my growth phase mid August. Cannot wait.
not to "split hairs" when I see guys say theyre running 300mg a week... isnt it 350mg a week? If you're running 100mg eod?
I'll be pinning MWF so nah, 300mg per week. Mixed in with 250mg Test E per injection.
Can you detail your experience with it like what weeks you noticed feeling it - and monitor the doses and give me a game plan
yeah I have a log on another forum I will message you about when the time comes my friend. I have read about it only being noticeable after 12 weeks as it is a long acting ester too but shall see. I should be making some solid gains end of October time, then I'll start prep mid to end of January
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What I’ve personally noticed is that a lot of old school guys seem to have huge resistance toward compounds like DHB / Dihydroboldenone and MENT / Trestolone in general.
And sometimes it feels like many are repeating older gym/youtubers narratives rather than actual first-hand experience with the compounds themselves.
Tell me one true old school guy … I mean 35-40+ with 10+ years USING gear (forums outsiders) that genuinely loves DHB or MENT. Most of them usually hate both compounds immediately.
Meanwhile newer generations seem way more open to experimenting with them, adjusting protocols properly and judging based on real-world response instead of reputation alone.
Anecdotally, a lot of people nowadays are actually reporting great cosmetic effects, fullness, strength and decent tolerance with DHB when dosing, injection frequency and solvent ratios are done correctly. I personally love DHB.
I think part of the hate also came from earlier badly brewed raws causing crippling PIP, inflammation and poor experiences overall. Once a compound gets that reputation attached to it, it tends to stick forever.
And it’s not rare to see someone who tried DHB years ago, stopped midway because of brutal PIP or some poorly brewed batch, swore the compound off forever… then revisits it years later with a better protocol/source and suddenly ends up loving it. LMAO
That’s actually a pretty common story from what I’ve seen.
Just my observation though.
How toxic do you believe it to be? Could you compare it to another compound in terms of toxicity/being harsh on your organs?
Im 40. Im concerned about health. I'm done running Tren/ orals besides an occasional short var cycle. I try to stick with test and primo. Do you think DHB falls into the "harsher" compounds category? I really loved Ment. And DHB. If Ment was considered safe to run instead of Test for TRT, I might.
Brother, the way I see it, bioidentical hormones are always the safest foundation. Test and GH are the closest thing to “safe” in this world, and even then, once dosage gets high enough, it can still become stressful … not because testosterone itself is poison, but because the demand it creates on the whole machine gets higher.
More size, more RBC, more BP pressure, more food demand, more organ workload, more recovery demand… everything scales up.
That’s why for real TRT/HRT, I personally don’t see anything replacing testosterone. TRT has been misunderstood like crazy nowadays. True TRT is basically restoring normal male function, quality of life and longevity … usually testosterone only, keeping levels in a healthy range based on medical supervision.
What a lot of guys call “TRT+” now is already more like a mild cycle/cruise. Test plus primo, mast, proviron, low dose GH, whatever… that can be done intelligently, but the goal starts shifting from pure health replacement into performance/physique enhancement.
Then blast and cruise is another lifestyle entirely. At that point health is still important, but performance and getting bigger become the priority.
So when people talk about replacing test with MENT or adding DHB into “TRT,” I think that’s where the categories get mixed up.
MENT is an amazing compound performance-wise, but I would never consider it a true TRT replacement long term. Too potent, too suppressive, too much estrogen/prolactin management, and for a lot of guys it gets neurologically loud over time.
DHB is different. I don’t see DHB anywhere near Tren toxicity. To me it’s more like Primo on steroids … dry, anabolic, cosmetic, strong, great nutrient partitioning … but with more systemic stress than Primo or Mast depending on the person. Some guys tolerate it beautifully, some get BP, RBC/hematocrit, appetite, PIP, fatigue or kidney marker issues. It varies a LOT.
So IMO, if health/longevity is the priority at 40, I’d keep the foundation simple: test, GH if desired, and maybe primo/mast as the safest secondary compounds.
DHB and MENT are better saved as blast tools for specific periods of time, not as foundational TRT compounds.
Nothing is safer long term than test/GH for true TRT-style longevity, and nothing is cleaner for a cycle than test + primo or mast with GH in the background, assuming bloodwork and BP stay controlled.
That’s just how I’d structure it personally.
Thanks for this
Facts, thank you
ok im sold... picking up 6 vials this week
I did bogo sale and got 12 vials, that is how much I love DHB. Just keep in mind you won’t notice it right away, it’s a longer run compound. At 5 weeks you will notice some but run it 16 weeks and you will look in the mirror and be like “Im jacked as fuck”.
You won’t get disappointed, bro.
I’ve been thinking about it. I know soon I have to leave the tren behind.
Posted bloods by making and others looked like it barely moved anything towards a bad reading. Tube is wannabes imo
I like dhb. Got a ton of it.
I dont even know what DHB is hahahahahha I gotta do this NPP cycle in winter first before I start being influenced to try something else hahah
But you guys are correct.. all the aas youtube bros all say DHB is "bad", "toxic" etc
I will influence you some more… DHB also known as 1-Testosterone Cypionate can be added to ANY cycle, Bulk or Cut. If you want to look like a God, look into it and use it.
I follow zero “influencers” that talk about AAS in any way.
Of ones that I’ve listened to in the past just out of curiosity the only one I could stand was Derek from MPMD.
I follow some dudes that are clearly on but don’t talk about it. Mostly powerlifters. Some Oly lifters.
I’ve heard at least one influencer who is a known liar claim that it is garbage and he had a client get liver failure from it. Skip Hill lists it as one of his favorite compounds. This is why we all do bloodwork. I have a good stock of DHB that I’m not ready to start yet but I’ll be monitoring my GGT closely when I start running it.
unseen423Bc most of the YouTube “influencers” just parrot each other without having any fucking idea of what they are talking about. Derek from MPMD basically took a giant stab in the dark with some rabbit data and said DHB is the devil and everyone latched on to it.
I have some DHB base no ester I got recently that I'm going to try as a preworkout soon. Hoping for good things
That is very interesting, never knew that existed
Only 1 place I know about, dm if you want to know. It's a source on here, but not always in stock
unseen423I’ve seen that- tried to order recently but it was out of stock.
Yeah I was surprised I got it. I had been told it was out of stock, but it still came in the package. Going to try it Wednesday
How did that go?
It was pretty good, though I haven't used any of the injectable preworkouts for a bit. Just haven't been patient enough to time it enough before the gym.
I did end up making my own blend withb the dhb base and tren base. That was a great workout, tons of energy. Not something to use often, but sometimes on a Saturday. I may have to try it again this week
Good to know, thank you!
unseen423@Jahbabble sent you a FR
I noticed the same thing on other platforms and I just shake my head. Maybe in the past it had very bad PIP, but now Jano tested DHB has no PIP that I have been using and it is one of my favorite compounds. The rumor about it being liver toxic because of some stupid rabbit study yet they fail to mention how the DHB was mixed with harsh chemicals. Why is it when I get my labs done on DHB my liver enzymes are normal? I hope they dont discover how good this compound is because it can make you look like a God.