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i see this all to often. people either want to get huge. or get cut the fuck up. or find it online. or their friend ran it. or w/e it may be, and put together a cycle of the most random compounds not giving any thought to the compounds synergy. we all see it happen all the time in the cycles forum. usually happens in one of two ways. ester length. and goals.

now the first way your compounds need to match is in ester length. (im going to assume we're all big boys here and know what esters are by now) there are to exceptions to this which i will touch on later. but for the most part, the ester length of your compounds needs to be the same. you run shorts with shorts. longs with longs. example: run test prop with npp. test e with deca. simple right. now the 2 main exceptions are running a long ester cycle with a short ester kick and taper. and a pro technique which i called shocking the system. this involves running long ester base and switching out a new short ester every few weeks. dont even think of trying this. other than those 2 exceptions, your ester length needs to match.

now the second way your compounds need to work together, and this one should be the obvious one, is the goal for your cycle. people, different compounds cause different results. different gains. different sides. if you want to bulk, your cycle (AND YOUR DIET) should consist of compounds that add mass. if you want to cut, use compounds that keep water retention down. theres no point in running a test prop and tren a cycle. keeping your salt intake to a minimum. and fucking it all up with a dbol kick.

please guys, i know if your reading this you obviously have internet connection. so please do research before you post up a thread asking for advice on such a poorly planned cycle. and do even more research before you pin it. in the end i cant stop you. its your body getting damaged. and your money being wasted. but have some mercy on me (and the rest of the bros on here) cause about your dbol tbol adrol eq mast cycle is killing me.

logan's picture

Nice post +1. Dbol,tbol,adrol eq mast cycle? You left out the tren. LOL

ruski's picture

Your crazy. I wasnt going to divulge the secret ingredient to my next cycle.

logan's picture

LOL why not go all the way and add some winstrol too.

XvBeast's picture

beastly post

mr.newguy's picture

Just question I like to hear all ideals. Not that information not there I like post what pops up

fast48's picture

Use the reply button next to your person you're replying to or we cant follow.

mr.newguy's picture

Would you be interested and posting its for cycle made by you

fast48's picture

Why are you stealing this forum? You should be researching why your last post of short Esters after pct is a bad idea.

ruski's picture

fuck me. i just saw that. lollolololollzzzzzzzz. love the track button.

massive "are you on trt? if not do you want to be?"

Cheatnnature's picture

Nice post ruski! I would plus 1 ya if I had the power lol. Hey I know the rule of thumb of running long with long and short with short but what is the science behind it? Backing up the rule of thumb besides trial and error? Was just curious.

ruski's picture

honestlly bro. im no where near as scientific or knowledgeable as some of the other bros. let me put it into an example for you. you run test prop and tren e for 8 weeks. in 8 weeks you finish both. test prop leaves your system in 48 hours. tren doesnt. what happens to your penis? it goes on the inactive list.

Greg's picture

What about reversing that? Tren A with Test e as a base.

fast48's picture

Bingo! The basics for halflife. If you understand halflife you can build a sweet easy cycle or tweak that cycle for full blown turbo.

ruski's picture

also, pinning comes into play. say you want to run eq and prop. eq needs to be run for 16 weeks. do you want to pin eod for 16 weeks?

Cheatnnature's picture

Hell no! Lol ya pinning was my obvious one. But for instance running test e with mast p test e for twelve weeks and the mast p for 6-8 weeks would that have a different effect than running mast e for 12 weeks? It got me thinking about it and if we run orals let's say test e 12 weeks with anavar for 8 weeks that compliments nicely but anavar has a 9 hr half life but that's an ok cycle. But running mast p which has a three day half life is not recommended ya know. Not arguing just sparking convo. And for the record I would run mast e with test e obviously cuz pinning schedule works better.

fast48's picture

1-4 prop 150eod
1-4 mast prop 150eod
1-14 mast e 600
1-14 test e600
15-17 prop 100/mast p 150 eod
OR sub a change for better cutting
1-10 test @ 600......11-14 400.....add var if low bf 9-17

Cheatnnature's picture

Ya that's how I would run it short ester to kick and taper. I was just curious what would happen if someone one were to do that.

fast48's picture

Short Esters simply faster acting versions of the parent Esters. Long ago folks frontloaded. Now for many cycles its easier IMO to match shorts and run with it. Super advanced runs can be a mix of shorts with test base.

Cheatnnature's picture

Amen to that bro. Screw hitn 3 mils to the cheek lol. I've only ran longs but plan on a kick and taper for the next one.

fast48's picture

High five to that!

ruski's picture

taper from week 14

fast48's picture

Yup....i started min one week later but 14 or after IMO so you're not boosting a test spike. But its an example of your post and exploring long with short Esters. First four Weeks using the shorts til the lings become fully active and then tapering. Not just jumbling compounds.

fast48's picture

I think your forum hit home. Lol

Cheatnnature's picture

Hey fast got a couple questions but don't wanna clutter the thread. Sent fr.

ruski's picture

haaaaa

mr.newguy's picture

Yeah I'm still learning myself. I did receive this cycle from a reputable source here on the right

mr.newguy's picture

U post this but there's no cycle history on your profile
Any can copy and paste shit from the web

ruski's picture

lol. im up for a challenge. test my knowledge. (also, i didnt go through all your threads, but i remember your name and im almost sure ive had to set you straight before)

mr.newguy's picture

Pm me fast48

mr.newguy's picture

Hmmm how so? Advice please.

mr.newguy's picture

Week 1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD "Kick Start" Week 1-16 TEST E @ 500mg/wk split doses Week 1-16 EQ @ 400mg/wk split doses(or 600m Week 15-19 Test p @ 100mg EOD AI of your choice Arimidex .25mg E3D or Arom 12.5mg EOD Starting no later than Week 3 and when PCT starts Start PCT 3 days after last Test P injection. PCT look like this: Clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20. So this is a no go?

levelup's picture

post a cycle log dont hijack the thread

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ruski's picture

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fast48's picture

No. needs work.

fast48's picture

Nice! Too many BS cycles posted lately...the op arguing its correct.

ruski's picture

idk if theres more newbs around, or more trolls.

spartacus91's picture

TROLLS !!! if i where to think these where real people with real cycles asking if PCT meanz post cycle training or how to run dbols with tren then i would sure give up on life...hahaha dbols and tren everyone knows its adrol with tren test baselines ppfffff.

OmNom's picture

honestly steroids are becoming more accepted and popular around a lot of crowds I know.. I don't advertise to any of them and most of them have no idea. I think it's just the large influx of ppl turning to steroids for a quick fix + a few trolls.

ruski's picture

so just more idiots. got you.

fast48's picture

Trolls is correct. Trolls on parade. As far as your post above its more potent to run complimentary compounds at low dose than high dose fixes all. Agree!