Cloudy Tren Acetate
What's up guys! I hope you've all enjoyed the holidays. Recently, I've received some cloudy looking tren acetate and it's not the only time. I realize this may have been talked about before, but it's not that much of a common topic and I want to get some fresh thoughts on this. Putting tren ace aside for a minute, I know that any gear solution in general shouldn't be cloudy, and if it is it should be tossed(as long as it's not just some crashed gear which can be fixed). But some say when it comes to tren, that may differ. Or at least, that's what I've heard from some members and elsewhere.
To be more specific, this tren ace actually seems to have a very small amount of tiny particles, or more like a thicker solution within a solution, if that makes sense. And these particles or whatever, will slightly separate from the solution when it sits for a while. Even when shaken vigorously, it still seems like if you run it through a filter there would be some shit left over. Is that what it really needs? To give it a run through a whatman? And is that even worth doing? My first thoughts were just to toss it, but I wanna hear what other ppl have to say.
Is there something wrong with this tren ace, and should it be tossed? Or is tren acetate just a different compound with different properties, that's ok to use even when it looks a little bit cloudy? Have any of you guys received or used cloudy tren ace before? If you have used some before, what was your experience with it, especially with injections and injection site reaction if any?
I'm gonna upload a pic or two of this tren without showing the brand, so you can see what's going on. If you guys would like to comment, that'll be very helpful and appreciated! Thanks fellas.
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Bang'emi had cloudy tren and all I had to do to clear it up was hold it and swirl it around under some hot water for a few minutes
Alphamale500Yeah but it's definitely not crashed. I've even tried that anyhow and it didn't clear anything up.
Edit: I've tried heating it up, but not like that.
Bang'emif nothing is working bin it not worth what could possibly happen to you for using bad gear. I dont think mine was crashed but the hot water made it look like there was never any cloudyness
Alphamale500Thks, but after speaking to multiple ppl that are particularly knowledgeable about tren and this sort of thing, I think they're good to run. I'm still gonna think about it a bit more, so it's possible I'll change my mind.
Ok cool mate. Good luck and keep us posted buddy
Alphamale500Will do. And you do make a valid point, not saying you don't. Gotta see. Thks though.
Ok cool mate. Good luck and keep us posted buddy
Bro honestly I'd bin it. Forget about the tren for a minute. If the compound is there then its going to feel how tren should.
But if the oil is off/bad then the health issues that you could possibly face really aren't worth a vial of tren. Plus if the source is decent then they will probably replace it out of respect for there customers
Alphamale500I hear you, and I appreciate and respect your opinion. But I think I'm going to run them. Now if it were any other compound, I wouldn't. I'd just toss them. But since this is a different situation, I'm 99% sure I'm going to run them. Gonna think about it just a lil more.
RustyhookerTren gets cloudy. If the source is quality...boom. if more solvents added by brewer, more pip.
Alphamale500So, it is normal for tren to become cloudy on occasion under certain circumstances?? The source is a good source, and the UGL is a high quality one that also puts out other great gear.
RustyhookerIve had cloudy by a top source...loved it. Ive got tren thats crystal clear....loved it. Even had popsicle orange, colored by food grade dye....loved it.
Alphamale500Did you see that 1 dark red tren vial in my pic with the other tren vials? It's like blood red and was awesome! I got great results from the other red vials that were part of that batch. Btw, do you think it looks like maybe some red dye was added to it, or is that likely just the color of it? Doesn't matter, just wondering!
Food grade dye...I used to have a little laugh to myself when I used to hear people raving about the colour of their tren.
I think Ive seen every shade from almost clear to blood red, to almost black. Actually I remember someone storing some for another run, looked fine, several months later asking why has my tren turned black. Hopefully that went in the bin.
RustyhookerYup yup! Then totally freak out when its not overheated and in mct. Barely yellow hazy but hot af. Lol. I think in the old days folks just got used to fina sticks which werent the real color.
Turning black....pirate leg gear. Lol! Removed leg and installed a peg.
I meant to say this too - If its from a top source/lab or one you've used before I really wouldn't worry about it. If it was from one that's fairly unknown and its your first time using them then probably toss it. It's a horrible experience pinning gear then worrying about it for the next 3 hours as to whether you are going to become ill or not.
RustyhookerWe did have a corn oil brewer with infection causing crap. Used 2 coffee filters. Lol. Yes, really.
But his cloudy tren is different than water, dirt etc.
I wrote this on another members post about cloudy Tren:
However it’s not to say YOUR Tren is something else. It comes down to weather or not you trust the source and more so the members who are using their gear and writing reviews/giving experiences. Sometimes it’s not worth the risk and I wouldn’t pin any other compound which was cloudy, only Tren.
Alphamale500You know, I honestly think I remember reading that exact information. I knew I heard of a real explanation, but I couldn't remember it exactly, including where I had heard it! And since I do trust the source, and the members and other sources of the relevant information I received, including you, I'm gonna say that my thinking is lining up with yours. And that is, that you shouldn't inject any cloudy gear, but when it comes to tren, an exception may be made under the right circumstances. Thks bro.
When I posted the question lot of the old school guys said they’d seen lots of cloudy Tren, maybe because information on brewing wasn’t as freely available as it is now and many brewers back then were over cooking the Tren. As the old saying goes when in doubt chuck it out but I had 10 or so bottles of the stuff so it was worth asking around!
Alphamale500Yeah I hear you bro! I have a fairly decent amount myself. Since I've received vials like this before, and I've heard of various ppl using it without any problems, that's why I decided to post about it and put up the pics. I guess I'll keep them at my friends house for a while until I decide what to do with them. Thks.
I simply would toss it.! Never pin cloudy GEAR; it's not worth the risk or trouble thinking about it.
Alphamale500I hear ya, and I'm not arguing with that. Your points certainly make sense. But when it comes to gear that's a dark color, how can you really tell what's cloudy and what has something else going on? I have tossed "cloudy" tren in the past.
But, especially after talking with other knowledgeable ppl about it, it does seem like this issue is something that occurs frequently, and happens because of other, non-harmful reasons than ordinary "cloudy gear" occurs from. Also, I'm more so looking to learn about the causes and whatnot of this.
Hello gentlemen! I don't mean to bust in on your guys cunvo but, I realized just the other day a little floaty in my test sus. 350. After shaking well and heating it was still there ... No pip no nothing!! But any ideas what this could be? Could it be contaminated like you guys said about this gentlemans gear? I just have never seen this before in any gear of my gear before and was a little concerned... sorry for just coming in with a different topic but after seeing this post I had to ask what ppl might think the floaty is in my test?? I hope everyone has a great day, hope to hear from someone soon, thanks! And alphamale I hope your gear is fine cuz I know the feeling that maybe the gear is no good I mean who wants that to be true... Have a good day friend hope it turns out well for you!!
Alphamale500No problem bro. Did this floaty happen to appear after you opened the vial and took one or more injections out of it? Did you ever re-use the same pin when drawing your injections? And btw, I'm not worried about the price of the gear or anything like that. This has happened to me before, so I'm really looking to learn about the reason or reasons for why this happens, and exactly what it is.
Yes this appeared after opened and used once or twice. But I never reused a pin, they are always fresh... And I rechecked for it after I used the gear, it was no longer there. So I must have injected it, but nothing bad happened at all. Just normal pip.
Alphamale500That's likely just a very small amount of the propionate ester in the sust beginning to crystallize. It happens when the temperature begins to get a little lower. Usually will clear up on its own when the temperature raises a bit. In fact, today my friend told me that the sust I'm keeping at his house was starting to form the same exact thing. No bullshit! Probably the propionate ester in the very early stages of beginning to crystallize because it's especially cold today. No homo, but it looks like a very tiny strand of sperm just floating around right? Or maybe a very small piece of cotton?
If by floaty you are refering to some tiny thing or like a hair your gear is not sterile and its probably contaminated (no in the meaning that you are going to die or something like that) but if the gear is not sterile the probability of having an infection is way higher.
Only way I can describe it is that it looked like a tiny tiny pice of lint from a bellybutton lol
Alphamale500No worries, just try and keep your gear where the temperature is a little bit higher. It'll sort itself out bro.
Ok sounds good thanks for the advice brother!
Ok sounds good thanks for the advice brother!
Did you try to heat it carefully, to be sure it's not just crashed? If this are not crystals but something else, thrash it. Oils should always be clear. If not, it's crashed or contaminated. Only cloudy/milky gear you can pin is water based, like tne or winny etc.
Alphamale500Tried heating and it did nothing. I'm gonna put the pics up now so you guys can see what I'm talking about. Because with dark colored gear, cloudy may not be the best term.
Absolutely nothing at all to worry about from my experience - I've used many vials of cloudy tren ace over the years and never had any problems. I always receive them around Xmas time when the weather is freezing outside and its this that seems to cause it. The only thing I have noticed is there seems to be slightly more PIP to it. The stuff I have just started yesterday is cloudy!
Alphamale500This is the kind of information that I've heard before, that with tren, cloudy is still ok to use. This is why I figured, let me write a topic about this and hear some other members out. I just don't understand if its the cold which caused the problem, then why can't it be fixed by heating it up? Also, since tren has a dark color, you can't really tell if it's cloudy or if there's something else going on with one of the solvents possibly. And specifically about injections, a little extra pip was the only thing you noticed? Thks.
Seriously? I'd never pin any cloudy gear! Gear isn't this expensive, that I'd risk it. Except it's obvious crashed and crystals disappear after heating...
Alphamale500I totally agree with never injecting cloudy gear. But since tren is dark, it's hard to tell if it's cloudy or if it's just something else going on, and just seems cloudy because it's dark. With tren ace, I don't think it's the "cloudiness" is caused by the same thing as with other gear that's clear-slightly yellowish. That's the whole thing.
X2. I’ve never ran tren, but I’d heat it up for a bit and if it didn’t clear up I’d be holding a funeral service that night for it.
Alphamale500Hey bro. I've tried heating it up and it doesn't clear up the problem. I'm thinking the same as you, tossing it. But I just wanted to get some other thoughts because like I mentioned, I've heard of this issue popping up before, and some ppl using cloudy tren without any problems. Thks.
Stuff in the U.K will be stored in warehouses outside where temps often reach 0 degs C and lower in the winter, then transportation through the post etc. To me £40 a vial is fairly expensive bud.
Understand, bro. But if it depends on the temperatures, it's just crashed and you can reconstitute it by heating. Then it's clear oil again and gtg. But if heating doesn't work and it stays clowdy, I'd be scared if it's contaminated. You get what I mean?
Also I meant that gear is pretty cheap, compared to the amounts of food we need and I really wouldn't eat any meat which has a strange color or smell. So why injecting something which seems odd? Not worth to risk my health ;)
If tren or any other compound:
"any gear solution in general shouldn't be cloudy"
Hey bud! Sorry to hear about your ace!
My first thought was crashed gear, but the more I think about it, the further I drift from that idea.
The description you provided truly makes me think of contaminated media from our research lab (working on my doctorate in a biology lab). Seems to me like some anaerobic microbe is growing in the solution.
IMO, unless you can rule out contamination altogether, I would toss it. Not worth the risk to me. If it’s questionable to put into your muscle inches deep, probably shouldn’t be there.
I look forward to the pics!
Alphamale500Hey bro. Well its not crashed. I considered that and figured I may as well try and reconstitute it, but it didn't fix the problem. Of course I can't rule out contamination, but idk. Thks.
Btw, I'm gonna put up the pic in a couple minutes.
+1, I also work in a lab and i was thinking about the same thing.