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We reap what we sow. Lifting responsibly, proper diet, and adequate rest are important parts of Anabolic lifestyle for me. I have to get at least 8 hours sleep a night, consume 3 high calorie low carb meals, with protein shakes and raw yogurt with fresh fruit snacks. I do cardio just 20-30 minutes now 3X week. Lift low weight compared to when I was 40 years old, 3X week too .
My first AS cycle(1999, 38yo) was 10 injections of Mexican Sustanon 250 in like 8 weeks. i carried on the plane from Cancun myself. The whole equation and drug cycle was very effective at putting muscle on me. I gained 12 pounds overall and lost 2 inches off my waist. The cycle cost $7/dose. Less than $100 for pounds of muscle and lower bodyfat~! Wow, I felt confident for the first time in a long time. Later I found validation in my favorite AS book called "Built to Survive" Vergel & Mooney. I borrowed it from the library. Nelson Vergel now has a book on TRT benefits, and making the most of it.
I do one cycle a year now. I take Test injection as needed the rest of the year. Not on any schedule because i have so many HIV related health issues. HIV+ since 1986. AIDS since 1999. Now, I am fighting infections regularly (AS can make cancer or infections worse) Eroids & friends do help keep my spirit healthy. HIV plus HIV drug therapy is known to depress T so i do need to supplement T to fight depression and fatigue. My primary Doctor won't give oil or injections & his prescribed gel is $$expensive, not covered, & not as effective as some underground labs oils. So, i order when i have money, and see a source that sounds interesting. Got burned by ???? ineffective shitoil. ??? another top ten source was also ineffective shitoil. ??? was well priced(20ML of Deca <$50, full cycle was <$500), good delivery(2weeks), and effective quality disappeared with some Eroids patrons money. ??? & ??? were terrific sources, now sadly serving in American penitentiaries.
Last two years I cycled Tren Ace and Test Pro from reputable and active sources here. Cycles were not effective for me. Maybe the drugs were underdosed, or maybe I was not as focused as i needed to be, or maybe AIDS has become irreversible. I have ordered Boldenon, test E, and ancillaries on Jan 16 from a top source, still waiting for any word.
My friends who have used Testosterone Replacement Therapy and Human Growth Hormone clinics who advertise on local media here, tell me quacks are expensive and pushy for $$$. The lab must be paid before patient gets blood-work, receives test results, and receives regularly scheduled injections. The techs apply pressure by insisting that missing a dose has negative consequences. The costs associated make it likely patient will miss a dose. Missing a dose may relieve the clinic of responsibility if treatment doesn't result in happier patient, like loss of bodyfat, gain lean muscle, and improved libido. Some people think the drugs work all by themselves. Don't forget we reap what we sow. Hard work, dedication to proper diet, and sleep are important to the equation.
Thanks for reading this. Welcome comments.

kibby's picture

Pale has hit the nail on the head

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Bill G's picture

You pinned sust 250 10 times in 8 weeks and gained 12 pounds?

AUTO51's picture

Thank you for your comment Sir. How did your first cycle go? Sir, your point is taken, my first cycle was 1998 or 9, so my memory isn't perfect. The fact that is undeniable is that the cycle was profoundly positive in lean muscle mass and fat loss, and cost effective. I could post before and after pix, butt I would have to scan them in because they are not digital. The after pix were taken by a professional photographer. I was inspired by Bill Phillips "Body For Life" contest. My friend Brad Wadlow had been a winner the year before. I did not complete my contestant process because the use of Sustanon 250 was against contest rules. I was 38yo and working out hard everyday for 8 weeks. I was living my dreams, before injuries and illness took there negative toll on my body and health. I am here on Eroids to receive help, and to share my experience to help others too.

Bill G's picture

What was my point?
I must asked a question.
I'm curious about pinning sust once a week. With the short esters most people pin it every other day. Or every day. In order to keep the levels as stable as posible. Now if the long esters were the ones contributing to your gains why would you only run it for 8 weeks. Those esters start giving results 4 to 6 weeks into it. So you got gains for 2 weeks then quit. What would have been the results had you gone another 4weeks. I have seen reports where sust was created for HRT and administered every 14 days . That's crazy but they did it. I guess my thoughts would be the very low dose was helping you. Though your diet change and work out intensity were probably the main factors in the gain.

Manshit's picture

Very good post brother.Good luck and keep up the fight!!!We can’t mention sources but pm some of us,because a lot of sources on here have good gear.

Pale's picture

You have survived a lot. I really do not have much to add to this, maybe primo might be worth looking at. It is mild but strengthens the immune system as well.

AUTO51's picture

Sir, thank for your comment and suggestion. I have looked into Primo, decided against my buying P after my recent history of being burned. I have read multiple stories of reliable labs failing Primobolon production because of its cost to profit ratio being low, and the powder being so difficult to receive. I would need definite assurance to make investment in Primo. Trips to Mex or Thai might be a good option, but I have experienced too many health issues of parasites that took years of treatment for me to cure. I'm not even sure pharmacies that cater to tourists are reliable anymore. Thanks.

kibby's picture

× 2 a low dose with trt would definitely be beneficial for him

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professer X's picture

Low dose as in 200mg primo? Or higher? I ask because i know most guys run primo high like 700-1000.. i have no experience at all with it just knowledge ive read and picked up...

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kibby's picture

Yeh 200- 300 mg would help boost his amine system anything after that would be a cycle

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Calrizzian's picture

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.”

Keep on keeping on with the good fight brother- we only get one shot at this thing called life, and no matter how dark and grim or bright and cheerful we continue with one foot in front of the other.

How often do you get blood work done? I know in one post you said you don’t like doing so... might I ask why you feel that way?

I’m no doctor, and don’t have a clue as to the correlation between AAS/peptides/hGH and AIDs, but I would think if the dangers are not present, that a good replacement dose of hgh paired with ghrp for appetite stimulus would help you exeponentially in the hunger/eating department- which is THE most important and back bone, especially to health in general.

Are there any negative effects of a higher RBC in AIDs patients?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3113074/

This may not be in the context I’m thinking it is, but it’s on the higher red blood cell count and the dangers it presents to HIV patients (I believe). Check it out, bc if true, I would stay away from EQ. But this study may not be what I’m thinking it is as well.

I would think that you would benefit from a very simplistic cycle that mitigates the least amount of side effects possible that keeps you balanced year round.

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AUTO51's picture

BTW, quarterly blood work currently. Wish I could talk to my Doctor like this. I know, get a new doctor. Just isn't another infectious disease specialist that accepts my insurance and takes new patients in my city of 2 million people. thanks again.

AUTO51's picture

The Force is with us. Thank you for your comment, very helpful. I better look into red blood cell count increase being bad for HIV before i begin EQ cycle, thanks.

giardap's picture

Nelsom Vergel is a BOSS.

You should share what you have learned from him. His knowledge surpasses 99.999999 (etc.) % of the population and he is still a knowledge seeker.

Manshit's picture

Michael Mooney is also very knowledgeable.He use to have an underground mag called medibolics.It was written for people with hiv but had very good info on muscle wasting and how to prevent it.I learned a lot of what I know from this when I was in my early twenties.I do not have hiv but back then it was one of the best sources for info in cycles and also where to shop.

giardap's picture

Absolutely. 2x bosses
Im not sure about MM but Vergel really transitioned into a guru on trt/bb'ing (coming from the musclewasting focus). Vergel was dying from AIDS at 1 stage and saved himsel. Unreal.

Vergel ran deca for 10 years straight fyi, with very low dose test. 10 years!

Manshit's picture

Vergel credits Mooney for helping his transition to living.Mooney use to work with a Dr that went by Dr X and ran a buyers club,back when most who caught HIV died.Dr X had aids and eventually succumbed to the disease and Mooney carried on his work.Mooney at one time had a column in Bill Phillips rag Muscle Media.It was one of the best column ever in a muscle mag.It seems they made the connection to wasting and death before the rest of the medical profession.Back then the inhibitors has been invented and the anti virals were not effective in most cases.

giardap's picture

Ahaaaa... this makes a lot of sense. I must look into MM more. I dont have hiv/aids, but the amount I have learned from the outcomes of these guys' work is unreal. I watched 'How to survive a plague' a couple of weeks back. To say the existing status quo's treatment of sufferers was disgusting would be an gross understatement. The amount of lives saved by the buyers clubs etc is phenomenal. True pioneers who sadly shouldnt have had to do what they did, heroes, the lot of them.

Manshit's picture

Yes sir!In America everything is controlled by the FDA and Unfortunately politics rule the day.Sometimes choosing to live can make you a criminal.Obviously I’m not one to care what the government thinks but those guys running the buyers clubs were fearless.

AUTO51's picture

Done. The other 5 products were effective but those 2 brands were not.

JARHEAD2's picture

You’re right bro!
Ps delete the names of sources & labs bro

AUTO51's picture

Done.

JARHEAD2's picture

Keep on keeping on bro & never give less than 100%!

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