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+ 2 Botched first Sub Q Test attempt. Dammit..

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Hey guys, I just decided to try the new sub-q test pinning that's all the rage as of right now. Bad idea, lol. I don't know WTF I did wrong. Maybe I can give you guys some info so you can shoot me your thoughts. Feel free to flame my ass because I feel like I deserve it. So I swabbed my vial and loaded up my slin pin with 30 units of test cyp(which is (CENSORED) totally PIPless when pinned IM). Sat down, swabbed my upper right thigh in prep for pinning. Pinched a nice piece of pasty whiteboy thigh flesh, and stuck the pin in. All going according to plan at that moment. Started slowly administering the cyp, all good. Got about half the oil in and then my skin slipped from my fingers. So I grabbed it again and continued. When I resumed the pinning it got a lot harder to shove the gear in, and it started stinging like a biotch! I finished up, pulled the pin, and held a prep pad over the inject spot. Then the stinging started to worsen, so I decided to massage it a bit...WTF?! Stung like mad, and still does an hour later. What do you guys think may be causing the pain? Too much oil, too fast? I've done plenty of other sub-q hCG pins with ZERO issues nor pain. If this is how sub-q test feels, I'd rather shoot my gear into my taint with my 25g 1.5" pin. Sorry this is long, but has anyone else ever had this happen? I'll stick to IM administration from here on out.

killroy's picture

loll. jesus... here we go again with the OMG! Sub-Q! The sky is falling. Runnn!! Bullshit! I've ran it a bunch. Studies have proven it works. Serum levels are far more stable then IM, aromatise is lower, etc etc etc... Google it. This method should only be used for low dose TRT. I only recommend pinning Test C or E and no more then .30ml at a time. Pharma Grade or a respected UGL. The only annoying thing about sub-q are the occasional bumps. There is a great youtube video on it by Dr. John Crissler. Also do not pinch the skin and see if you can get a larger gauge. You will get a inflammatory response, even some pinkness and warmth. That will go away within a week. Its funny how some of you get all worked up... but honestly there are is no more or less risk then shoving a pin deep into your muscle and pumping with full of the new flavor of the week UGL's oil. If I had a cyst, I sure as shit would want it subq q, then fucking 1.5" deep in my ass. I challenge anyone to provide any studies that show subq runs a higher risk of infection or cyst formation vs I.M. You won't find it. Plenty of TRT clinics are running this protocol. Some of y'all need to look out the box every now and then.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thanks for that but i for one will choose to stay "in the box" and for me your .30ml wouldnt do shit for me either, i have tooth fillings older than you bro and never had a problem IM so i think dont fix what aint broke right!

killroy's picture

hey I'm not knocking IM... I run IM... some protocols going ED, rotating 6 to 8 sites. I look forward to my IM shots. Some may say I'm crazy. But some folks want to take a break from poking holes in their fascia/muscles and there are others who just want to run a low dose TRT & are squeamish about IM altogether. If sub-q provides more stable serum levels and lower aromatise where the patient has to pin less and take less AI or stop it all together... then one can argue that IM administration of testosterone for TRT patients may be "broken" in certain aspects. New studies and trials have shown that Sub-q may be the better approach... Its not for everyone. And definitely not for BB'ing.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Yeah i get your point brotha and agree now youve cleared it up more.. again i can be a little "dinosaur" with my usage but you can probably understand why!.. you made some valid points in that post and i am glad you did to shed more light on this debate for others to learn from.. thanks for that +3 for valid TRT pointers Smile

killroy's picture

Thanks brother.. All love for you. (All Homo) Biggrin

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littlebig's picture

WTF? Oil sub q? How the shit does this make sense hahahaha well at least other will learn for this insanity.

gsleepy's picture

Ummmmm with the understanding that this test has failed first off, +1 for taking one for the team! Secondly I would like to dissuade you from pinning your taint with a 25g 1.5" pin, this sounds like a bad idea... LOL Hope you feel better.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

All the rage for brain dead MOFOs... NO oil based compound is meant for subQ pinning who the FK dreams all these FKing stupid new ideas up!.. Abccess, boils, staph infections are all rife with this lunacy.

BEND OVER WHILE I WHIP YOUR ASS WITH THE BIG BELT LMFAO!

Seriously thanks for posting this its good info that may dissuade other members from making the same mistake +3 brotha good post Smile

fast48's picture

There's a big forum in general talk promoting sub q. It's just flat goofy that since injecting test etc has been around since the 1940's.....suddenly some folks gotta reinvent the wheel. Totally forgetting all those decades of Live testing. Smh

Catalyst's picture

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

IM injecting isn't broke is it?